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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Bipartisan simply means two parties. And yes it hurts our country. We need 6-7 parties. No two parties can represent any individual well. In our current system a person has to pick their favorite issue and go with it even if they have to compromise on another. Ebony recently ran an article that claimed a majority of blacks agree with conservative issues, however they cling to the democrats because that party is seen as the strongest on civil rights of minorities.
    With this current system a person has to either support gay rights or pro life because the two parties are on opposite sides of those issues. A multiple party system would allow an individual to support a candidate with a pro life pro gay agenda.
    Fear (and some bipartisan flim flam)prevents the multiple party system from happening. People become petrified their favorite issue will lose if the don't vote for the D or R. Friends of the Bi-partisans claim you are wasting your vote or voting for the other side to keep folks in check. So don't hold your breathe that anything except the 2 party system is coming soon.
    6 or 7 party's is one way to look at it. Another is, we as a country of people and voters are too wishy-washy. We need to pick a side - either R or D and stick with it - the problem with this is neither party, were they to gain majority, would listen to the other party's ideas. Bi-partisan views only work when there's a clear majority of one party AND that majority doesn't dismiss the other party as irrelevant. Right now, neither party in a majority would have the ability to listen and take the good idea's of the minority. The reason is our system is sick...

    Our system isn't based on civil service or betterment of people or our society - it's based on raising money. At the most basic level - that must be cut out like the cancer it is for anything to improve. Without it, this is all nonsensical rhetoric like "hope and change". Think about it - when a new Senator or House member wins office this November - the first few meetings they have are with lobbyists (and this is both party's folks) and their National Committee members give the new Congresspeople their marching orders for 2011: Raise money for the party. Tell me that's not ****ed up.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    We need to pick a side - either R or D and stick with it
    Please Explain
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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Please Explain
    It's the old "third parties will never be taken seriously" spiel.

    Wait for it.
    Fool me once, shame on you.
    Fool me twice....shame on me.

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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    A true Multi Party system only is feasible IF you basically get a Leftist New Party up Against a new Hard Conservative Party roughly at the same time. Then both Republican's and Democrats lose from both ends.

    Things like Perot (92) and (96) clearly hurt the GOP more than Bill Clinton. It cost Bush Sr. several States in 1992 and Dole a few in 1996. Nader with a meager entry in 2000 cost Gore Florida and the Election.

    Further back in time - John Anderson in 1980 gave Reagan both N.Y. and Massachusetts .

    A solid 4 Party race might actually be refreshing, but Democrats have a better track record of "Circling the Wagons"

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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Racine View Post
    A true Multi Party system only is feasible IF you basically get a Leftist New Party up Against a new Hard Conservative Party roughly at the same time. Then both Republican's and Democrats lose from both ends.
    This exists already the hard left party is the Greens and the hard right one is the Constitution Party and I guess if you follow the left-right dictum the Libertarians are in the middle
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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    Does Bipartisan Politics hurt America?

    Does kicking me in the balls mean I'll fall over?

    Could switching to Geiko really save you 15% or more on car insurance?

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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Does Bipartisan Politics hurt America?

    Does kicking me in the balls mean I'll fall over?

    Could switching to Geiko really save you 15% or more on car insurance?
    are you guys confusing partisan with bipartisan? how do bipartisan politics HURT?
    Last edited by liblady; 10-18-10 at 12:24 PM.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    are you guys confusing partisan with bipartisan? how do bipartsian politics HURT?

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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Either have one party or three -- when you split a country down the middle, things get nasty.

    No more explanation is needed.
    that's not the definition of bipartisan.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Bipartisan Politics: Does it Hurt America?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    This exists already the hard left party is the Greens and the hard right one is the Constitution Party and I guess if you follow the left-right dictum the Libertarians are in the middle


    No , the Libertarians are perpetual losers and seldom do they hurt the GOP. What I suggest (if possible) is that the Greens and an outfit like the Constitution Party really gather solid support and take sizeable portions of the overall Vote. Now we are not Legislative Only Government with Premier, Prime Minister or mixed Cabinet portfolio's BUT technically there is nothing wrtong with an outright deal to form a Legislative Majority IF that deal is 100% out in front of the people - with an understandable valid explanation as to WHY it came about.

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