Prostitution

I think that it is legal here... not sure, but I certainly never hear about any issues or arrests regarding prostitution.


I think that it should be legal...

Bodhisattva said:

I think that it is legal here... not sure, but I certainly never hear about any issues or arrests regarding prostitution.


I think that it should be legal...

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Prostitution in New Zealand is "very loosely regulated".

(Google is your friend).

Bodhisattva said:

I think that it is legal here... not sure, but I certainly never hear about any issues or arrests regarding prostitution.


I think that it should be legal...

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repeter said:

Why not? ten char

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I see no benefit too it. I think it degrades society and I am morally opposed to it.

digsbe said:

I see no benefit too it. I think it degrades society and I am morally opposed to it.

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But is it better to have it run legally, where laws can protect people, or to have it done illegally, where it is run by criminals? Because prostitution isn't the worlds oldest profession for nothing, you will NEVER get rid of prostitution.

Your Star said:

But is it better to have it run legally, where laws can protect people, or to have it done illegally, where it is run by criminals?

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I say we enforce prostitution and preform sting operations. I know people personally who used to be prostitutes and never had any issues with the law. It's lightly enforced. Laws don't guarantee safe contractual sex.

digsbe said:

I see no benefit too it. I think it degrades society and I am morally opposed to it.

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The only benefit would be to take it out of the hands of criminals and have it regulated by (and profiting) the state, which would increase the safety of both the workers and the clients.

As it is, girls don't have much legal recourse if they get raped or beaten in the course of doing their jobs; often they're afraid to report it.
And clients likewise don't have much legal recourse if they get ripped off, robbed, or jumped.
They're afraid to report it (of course, a lot of them still would be even if it were legal, because it would damage their reputations and possibly destroy their marriages).

digsbe said:

I say we enforce prostitution and preform sting operations. I know people personally who used to be prostitutes and never had any issues with the law. It's lightly enforced. Laws don't guarantee safe contractual sex.

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"Enforce" prostitution?
I don't think I understand.

1069 said:

The only benefit would be to take it out of the hands of criminals and have it regulated by (and profiting) the state, which would increase the safety of both the workers and the clients.

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Or eradicate it all together through law enforcement. I think the state could make a profit by reducing jail time and fining pimps and prostitutes once they catch them.

As it is, girls don't have much legal recourse if they get raped or beaten in the course of doing their jobs; often they're afraid to report it.
And clients likewise don't have much legal recourse if they get ripped off, robbed, or jumped.
They're afraid to report it (of course, a lot of them still would be even if it were legal, because it would damage their reputations and possibly destroy their marriages).

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Which is why you preform sting operations.

1069 said:

"Enforce" prostitution?
I don't think I understand.

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I mean enforce laws against prostitution, actually doing something legally about it instead of turning a blind eye and lightly enforcing anti-prostitution laws.

digsbe said:

Or eradicate it all together through law enforcement. I think the state could make a profit by reducing jail time and fining pimps and prostitutes once they catch them.

Which is why you preform sting operations.

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You're rather naive.
I don't think you understand how bad grownups are.
Like, all of them.

digsbe said:

I say we enforce prostitution and preform sting operations. I know people personally who used to be prostitutes and never had any issues with the law. It's lightly enforced. Laws don't guarantee safe contractual sex.

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We are doing that, but it's not working. Women are being raped, and contracting STD's because there is no regulation. It is better to regulate and keep people safe, than to try and naively stop prostitution.

1069 said:

You're rather naive.
I don't think you understand how bad grownups are.
Like, all of them.

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How is that relevant? I'm a college kid, I'm aware of how wicked the adult world is.

Your Star said:

We are doing that, but it's not working. Women are being raped, and contracting STD's because there is no regulation. It is better to regulate and keep people safe, than to try and naively stop prostitution.

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What does rape and STD's have to do with prostitution? Is not paying a hooker after sex rape or theft? It's naive to think government regulation will prevent the spreading of STD's through prostitution. I would imagine more STD's are spread through promiscuity over contractual sex.

digsbe said:

I see no benefit too it. I think it degrades society and I am morally opposed to it.

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I see no benefit to Julia Roberts movies. I think they degrade society with their formulaic plots, vapid dialogue, and her wooden acting. I'm morally opposed to them. So can we please ban Julia Roberts movies (or just ban Julia Roberts)? (See how easy that was!)

The fact that you don't like something, see no benefit in it, think its degrading, or find it immoral is not a reason to legally ban it. All of those standards are extremely subjective and open to personal interpretation. Prostitution that is a voluntary transaction between two consenting adults doesn't harm anyone in a legal sense. Why should we waste millions, if not billions, of tax dollars to arrest, prosecute, and incarcerate people who are doing something that harms no one?

Absolutely, but I do think it should be regulated. I think one of the best ways to properly regulate would be semiannual or, at the most, annual testing for all known STDs for all prostitutes, male or female.

It is plain wrong that a person is legally allowed to have sex for any reason in the world with another consenting adult except for actual money at that moment. Not to mention, it is even legal to pay two people to have sex in front of you and a camera as long as you are following the proper federal and state laws to make porn.

I'm in favour of legalization with a few caveats.

One is that under aged prostitution should remain illegal; those who use child services should go to jail under the same pedophilia laws that apply in all other cases.

The second is that sex trafficking should remain illegal. Just because there is a demand doesn't mean people will have license to take supply from wherever they want, which includes luring women (often along with their children) from abroad into indentured servitude. Legalization still requires vigilance in order to ensure that supply is not being channeled from illicit sources.

Also, legalization has to mean an increase in support resources for the workers otherwise it is completely pointless. This means safe access to the police where reports of rape, abuse and theft can be taken seriously; reports of violent johns must be visible to the communities involved; it also means legal access to services for women who want to get out of the industry, especially immigrants who often end up there under false pretenses.

A couple of problems that I am not sure how to resolve:

1) The kind of services that are acceptable under law. It is okay to hire a man or woman for very rough sex in which he/she is beaten and perhaps injured? There are clearly some boundaries that would have to be defined, but who should do that?

2) To ensure legal practice, sex workers would need to be licensed, and with any licensing system there will still be underground practices that are off the radar. Legalization would not remove the underground for this reason, especially when it comes to special services like barebacking and child sex. Some people will always be willing to pay more for these commodities, and legalization would open the supply channels so we should be prepared for more of these cases.

3) Market prostitution should be relegated to certain areas only and it should not be legal to work a corner near schools zones for example. Private services (i.e. out of one's home) should be discreet.

rivrrat said:

Makes absolutely no sense that I can have sex with someone for any reason in the world and it's perfectly fine, but if a dollar changes hands suddenly it's a criminal offense. No sense at all. I can sell the use of my body to do anything else and it's perfectly fine. But if I sell the use of my body for sitting on a dick, suddenly it's some horrific thing that must be punished by law.

Absolutely retarded.

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Underlike marriage at least your getting something for your money. :lamo

roguenuke said:

Absolutely, but I do think it should be regulated. I think one of the best ways to properly regulate would be semiannual or, at the most, annual testing for all known STDs for all prostitutes, male or female.

It is plain wrong that a person is legally allowed to have sex for any reason in the world with another consenting adult except for actual money at that moment. Not to mention, it is even legal to pay two people to have sex in front of you and a camera as long as you are following the proper federal and state laws to make porn.

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At minimum it should be monthly and all people in the profession should be licensed.

megaprogman said:

At minimum it should be monthly and all people in the profession should be licensed.

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Some STDs could be done monthly, but I think that it really would be a waste to require all of them to be done monthly, when some of them, such as HIV, take several months to actually show up in a test.

I do agree with the licensing. And I would say that condom usage would have to be mandatory to help prevent the spread of diseases.

American said:

Underlike marriage at least your getting something for your money. :lamo

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Exactly. LOL

Regulate it. Tax it. And in the words of Nike - just do it.

All men pay for sex. Sometimes they just do it in the form of a marriage or a relationship.

Trust me - it's cheaper to buy a hooker.

Gipper said:

Trust me - it's cheaper to buy a hooker.

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And far less of a waste of time. LOL

phattonez said:

Forget your personal views of it, should it be legal or not?

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It should be legal. You can have oversight then, proper regulation and testing and fair wages; that sort of thing. I'm sure you'll probably never really get rid of the street walker sort of scenario, but through legalization and proper regulation you can make the situation a lot better for many others. And there's no base reason on why prostitution should be illegal.

phattonez said:

Forget your personal views of it, should it be legal or not?

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I'd like to change my vote. ;-)

What difference would it make? If it were legal, there'd still be skanks that stand on the street corners....girls who didn't get tested...girls who are virtual prisoners of their pimps...slave trade...all the rest. We can't even stop it now that it's illegal.

What I really wish? I really wish that any John who was arrested/convicted would get his photograph posted on line. Keep it illegal and make that happen.

vote no. if they make it legal then the government will tax it. I don't want to have to pay $22.50 for my $20 BJ. :lamo

Teh Internets said:

At least if it's legalized it won't be run by criminals.

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You assume the gov't isn't run by criminals. :wink:

Gipper said:

Regulate it. Tax it. And in the words of Nike - just do it.

All men pay for sex. Sometimes they just do it in the form of a marriage or a relationship.

Trust me - it's cheaper to buy a hooker.

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You know Gipper, I am sick to death of the way you repeatedly insult women here. Just because you can't manage to get yourself laid, you have no right to attack an entire gender and get away with it. Were you insulting Blacks, Asians, Muslims ... etc you'd be infracted. You may think your "humor" is cute, but it's not in the least.

Has it ever occurred to you that women HAVE JOBS and are simply not out to live off someone else's money? Before I gave up my career to stay home with my son, I made more money than my husband. Selling a lucrative business enabled me to contribute financially as well as giving me the time we both wanted to raise our son. Your constant insistence that women sponge off men is not only insulting and archaic, it's just plain WRONG.