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    Re: Prostitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Prostitution is degrading to the morals of the worker, the customer, the handlers, and the society which tolerates it...
    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    Why? ... any explanation would be nice.
    Sex is sacred. Whether we admit it or not, sexuality plays a profound role in our sense of self and our relationships with others; our sex drive is intrinsically attached to our need for intimacy. Fulfilling our natural sexual drives and needs with pornography and promiscuity is like fulfilling our hunger with junk food-- it satiates us, but it is profoundly unhealthy and it deadens our taste for more wholesome fare. When we can have one-night stands and pay others for purely selfish sexual gratification, we forget the importance of also providing sexual gratification to others. Promiscuity harms our self-image and our ability to interact with people as other than sex objects.

    Prostitution is nothing more than adding profit incentives to promiscuity, which makes all of the problems with it far worse.

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    Re: Prostitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Sex is sacred. Whether we admit it or not, sexuality plays a profound role in our sense of self and our relationships with others; our sex drive is intrinsically attached to our need for intimacy. Fulfilling our natural sexual drives and needs with pornography and promiscuity is like fulfilling our hunger with junk food-- it satiates us, but it is profoundly unhealthy and it deadens our taste for more wholesome fare. When we can have one-night stands and pay others for purely selfish sexual gratification, we forget the importance of also providing sexual gratification to others. Promiscuity harms our self-image and our ability to interact with people as other than sex objects.Prostitution is nothing more than adding profit incentives to promiscuity, which makes all of the problems with it far worse.
    So do you have anything behind what you say, or did you just copy-paste from Pat Robertson's website?

    I bolded all the things you boldly asserted without a lick of proof, or even the consideration that other people don't share your backward views about sex.

    You'd do well to worry about your own sex life, and stop trying to dictate other people's as though it were any of your business whatsoever.

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    Re: Prostitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    So do you have anything behind what you say, or did you just copy-paste from Pat Robertson's website?

    I bolded all the things you boldly asserted without a lick of proof, or even the consideration that other people don't share your backward views about sex.

    You'd do well to worry about your own sex life, and stop trying to dictate other people's as though it were any of your business whatsoever.
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    Re: Prostitution

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    Ah, we finally disagree. It all comes down to self ownership.
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    Re: Prostitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    Do you think the brothels aren't regulated? And do you think less women will get forced to work if it is illegal? It is very hard to force someone to work in a legal brothel, because they are regulated. Actually due to the regulations, some brothels stay illegal. And you could force someone to work in any business, but what is the point, when you can hire ordinary workers who will do it freely? What cost? There are very few problems in New Zealand due to prostitution and the ones that exist come from street prostitution, not brothels. If it was criminalized then there would be a lot more street prostitution, because you can only criminalize buying sex, not selling. Even if you criminalized selling, it would still exist underground and lots of prostitutes would be in prison. Our red light district is completely safe and families walk there during the day. It wasn't safe before it was legalized.

    In fact, criminalizing it causes much more problems. Because the whole industry goes under the earth, and prostitutes have to rely on pimps to safely give them clients. If it's legal, then they can open up their own business.

    Stats show that this is true. "More than 60 per cent felt they were more able to refuse to provide commercial sexual services to a particular client since the enactment of the law."
    The Red Light district is a fine example of my point - if it happens there then it can happen anywhere.
    No matter how strict your regulations, no matter what lengths you go to ensure safety and so on - there will always be people taking advantage of it and bringing their dregery with them while they do it.

    I'm not making that up - that is purely based on the many many problems they've dealt with in the *very regulated, monitored and government controled* Red Light District - they've scaled it down in size considerably and people are pretty much tired of the other stuff it invites to the area.

    However - I'm not against people selling their selves if they want. What I'm against is it becoming an organized, regulated, defined and assigned business like an actual brothel.

    If someone wants to prostitute their self around by all means - but it shouldn't be recognized as a legitimate business practice.
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    Re: Prostitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    They are still presenting their body for money.
    Just like anyone else who works for a living. Everyone sells themselves for money. Well... everyone that works, that is.

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    Re: Prostitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    I think there's something sexist in saying that a woman is flexing her equality by working as a doctor, saving lives, but somehow degrades herself selling sex. What is it about sex that devalues a woman? It doesn't even have to be a woman, as many sex workers are male. What is degrading about sex?
    Somehow degrades herself selling sex? A $20 blow job in the alley on some dirty old guy who hasn't showered in three days? That's not degrading? You and I have a very different definition of the word 'degrading.'
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    Re: Prostitution

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Somehow degrades herself selling sex? A $20 blow job in the alley on some dirty old guy who hasn't showered in three days? That's not degrading? You and I have a very different definition of the word 'degrading.'
    A waitress who works in a dirty, run down diner waiting on dirty old guys who slobber and fawn all over her and/or treat her like a slave for $4/hr. That's pretty ****ing degrading.

    I certainly didn't find champagne by candlelight and sex with attractive men for $500+/hr to be degrading.

    What's degrading is up to the individual to determine. ANY job can be degrading. Which is why it's a good thing that "degrading" isn't a pre-requisite for making or keeping something illegal.
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    Re: Prostitution

    Why should it be illegal to sell something that is perfectly legal to give away for free?
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    Re: Prostitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    The Red Light district is a fine example of my point - if it happens there then it can happen anywhere.
    No matter how strict your regulations, no matter what lengths you go to ensure safety and so on - there will always be people taking advantage of it and bringing their dregery with them while they do it.

    I'm not making that up - that is purely based on the many many problems they've dealt with in the *very regulated, monitored and government controled* Red Light District - they've scaled it down in size considerably and people are pretty much tired of the other stuff it invites to the area.

    However - I'm not against people selling their selves if they want. What I'm against is it becoming an organized, regulated, defined and assigned business like an actual brothel.

    If someone wants to prostitute their self around by all means - but it shouldn't be recognized as a legitimate business practice.
    What if we make it so a brothel has to be in a low population area, such as in the country side?

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