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    Re: Does Christopher Columbus deserve a holiday?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    maybe we should all go and gamble at the rez casinos and give the injuns a bit of reparations.
    I always thought that was a funny trade-off.

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    How many actually cerbrate the man? I would be surprised if anyone actually did. I understand liking the day off, the few who actually get one, but couldn't we pick someone we actually care about? Just asking . . . .

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    Re: Does Christopher Columbus deserve a holiday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    How many actually cerbrate the man? I would be surprised if anyone actually did. I understand liking the day off, the few who actually get one, but couldn't we pick someone we actually care about? Just asking . . . .
    Good point. To take it a bit further, how many really understand memorial day, labor day, veterns day or for that matter any federal holiday? IMO, it as you said it has become a "day off".
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    Re: Does Christopher Columbus deserve a holiday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    So how would one go about celebrating Columbus Day, anyway? Maybe we could symbolically enslave a Native American in his own home for a day.
    Well like, we don't really do anything for Memorial Day or July 4th, for me it's usually a welcome paid day off.
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    Re: Does Christopher Columbus deserve a holiday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Christopher Columbus never even landed in this country. He landed in Cuba, the Bahamas, and Hispaniola. The first European to land in North America (excluding the Vikings) was John Cabot, in 1497. In any case, they were all interchangeable. If Columbus hadn't landed in the West Indies, some other European explorer certainly would have within the next decade.

    There were people who were much more important to the United States than Christopher Columbus. We could have Einstein Day or Tesla Day instead.
    Or maybe France day? For, you know, giving you your country? XD

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    Re: Does Christopher Columbus deserve a holiday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Or maybe France day? For, you know, giving you your country? XD
    If that was to be the case then Portugal, Spain, and France should have US Day for us helping them to win their war with England that was going on at the same time.

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    Re: Does Christopher Columbus deserve a holiday?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    If that was to be the case then Portugal, Spain, and France should have US Day for us helping them to win their war with England that was going on at the same time.
    I would politely suggest to you to note the vast gap between France's contribution to the establishment of the United States, and the United States's contribution to the success of the French Revolution and the repulsion of English attacks therein. Though, I understand your point, and I agree -- though FOX News for whatever reason chooses to disregard three hundred years of history supporting this, it's still true that you'd be hard pressed to find two countries more similar in ideology and realpolitik goals than the French Republic and the US. They were born together, and for most of their history they've fought and died together. The current anti-French sentiment in the US and anti-US sentiment in France is nothing but rivalry from two of the most similar nations in the world.

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    Re: Does Christopher Columbus deserve a holiday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    I would politely suggest to you to note the vast gap between France's contribution to the establishment of the United States, and the United States's contribution to the success of the French Revolution and the repulsion of English attacks therein. Though, I understand your point, and I agree -- though FOX News for whatever reason chooses to disregard three hundred years of history supporting this, it's still true that you'd be hard pressed to find two countries more similar in ideology and realpolitik goals than the French Republic and the US. They were born together, and for most of their history they've fought and died together. The current anti-French sentiment in the US and anti-US sentiment in France is nothing but rivalry from two of the most similar nations in the world.
    I would say that the contribution of the US was just as much as Spain, Portugal, and France since the American Revolution siphoned large amounts of men, material, and naval resources for 7 years.

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    Re: Does Christopher Columbus deserve a holiday?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    I would say that the contribution of the US was just as much as Spain, Portugal, and France since the American Revolution siphoned large amounts of men, material, and naval resources for 7 years.
    To be fair, the entirety of the American War of Independence only brought 1/14th of the British Army and 1/12th of the Royal Navy to bear -- most of the rest of those fractions were devoted to fighting France and the horrific new Dachte-Pest (idea-plague) of Republicanism (as scary and novel to the monarchs of the dying 18th century as Communism was to the nations of the 20th century).

    Anyway, I think you missed the entire point of my post -- while we may disagree on the importance of the American colonies on the larger world stage at the time, the heart of my post was about Franco-American relations, in history and now.

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    Re: Does Christopher Columbus deserve a holiday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    To be fair, the entirety of the American War of Independence only brought 1/14th of the British Army and 1/12th of the Royal Navy to bear -- most of the rest of those fractions were devoted to fighting France and the horrific new Dachte-Pest (idea-plague) of Republicanism (as scary and novel to the monarchs of the dying 18th century as Communism was to the nations of the 20th century).

    Anyway, I think you missed the entire point of my post -- while we may disagree on the importance of the American colonies on the larger world stage at the time, the heart of my post was about Franco-American relations, in history and now.
    I agreed with your point which is why I never commented on it. France and the US are alike and shared similar experiences in their revolutions. Although, the French went overboard with the entire murdering of anyone that didn't agree with the Republicans.

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