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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    -- An investment that will eventually pay more into the system than those that do not get the chance to go beyond high school.
    That is my belief too and I think, that of most Brits. Obviously people would prefer not to pay the higher taxes to fund such things but investment has a cost. In the public consultation here on cuts to services that we agree with - education and health have been low on the target list in the public's mind.

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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I think the connections get a bit tenuous when you use a broad definition like that. It could be argued that everyone is taking advantage of "welfare" at all times by living in a society with a functioning economy, paved roads, and laws against murder. If you define something that broadly, it loses all meaning.
    That's probably true. But I was keeping it towards financial related rather then tax based services like roads and police. ADM gets millions in corporate welfare which likely reduces its prices. We benefit when we buy a ADM product. Thus we have personally benefited from corporate welfare. That welfare at the corporate level becomes welfare at the personal level. Services based on taxes isn't what I was talking about.

    Considering the large subsidies nuclear power gets, everyone who turns on their lights with nuclear energy is benefiting from welfare.

    I think that one possible way to describe "welfare" in the sense that the OP is getting at would be "benefits bestowed directly upon an individual for reasons other than engaging in an economically preferred activity."
    Doesn't that make the earned income tax credit not welfare? Furthermore, unemployment benefits wouldn't be welfare as well as in theory, you're suppose to be hunting for a job.
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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    Hmmm lets see.
    Currently we recieve child benifit. (Everyone does)
    I've used the healthcare system since I was born. Been unemployed. Recieved free training from a state organization. Now I pay higher tax than some countries. But if I want the former, I have to accept the latter.
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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    Damn! The OP should have defined the types of welfare because I might have voted incorrectly.
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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Just as the title says.....
    MY mother was a couple of times when me and my sisters were growing up. Foodstamps and WIC that I know of.
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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    We got foodstamps for about 7 weeks when i first got off active duty until I found a job.

    I don't consider student loans to be welfare, since you have to pay that money back....with intereest.

    We did receive WIC for a couple of our foster kids when they were younger.
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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I think the connections get a bit tenuous when you use a broad definition like that. It could be argued that everyone is taking advantage of "welfare" at all times by living in a society with a functioning economy, paved roads, and laws against murder. If you define something that broadly, it loses all meaning.

    I think that one possible way to describe "welfare" in the sense that the OP is getting at would be "benefits bestowed directly upon an individual for reasons other than engaging in an economically preferred activity."

    Student loans and the home buyer tax credit would be excluded from this definition, while food stamps and disability payments would be included.
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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Just as the title says.....
    i have, i guess, as a child. not as an adult.

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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i have, i guess, as a child. not as an adult.
    Did your family recieve foodstamps? Housing asssistance? What?
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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    My severely autistic and epileptic 37 year old son that we care for receives SSI and food stamps. It does not come close to being enough to support him
    Last edited by ptif219; 10-08-10 at 06:00 PM.

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