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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    When I was a kid at primary school we all used to get free milk, up till 10 years ago when dentists were allowed to go private I received (like everyone else in the UK) free dental care, as a UK citizen I get free medical care. As a young man, my B.A. was paid for by the Govt - as was my Master's degree.

    In the period between academic years, I had a couple of short periods of unemployment and got what was then called unemployment benefit. When I stayed in the city I was studying at I also recieved housing benefit. Generally however that all ended 23 years ago when I finally completed my Master's. I've been fully employed or worked freelance since and paid all my costs as well as my taxes back into the system.

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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    When I was a kid at primary school we all used to get free milk, up till 10 years ago when dentists were allowed to go private I received (like everyone else in the UK) free dental care, as a UK citizen I get free medical care. As a young man, my B.A. was paid for by the Govt - as was my Master's degree.

    In the period between academic years, I had a couple of short periods of unemployment and got what was then called unemployment benefit. When I stayed in the city I was studying at I also recieved housing benefit. Generally however that all ended 23 years ago when I finally completed my Master's. I've been fully employed or worked freelance since and paid all my costs as well as my taxes back into the system.
    Thank you. You just reaffirm my belief that government assistance when it comes to schooling is not really a welfare program as much as it is just an investment in the future. An investment that will eventually pay more into the system than those that do not get the chance to go beyond high school.
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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    Aren't we all?

    We eat right? Therefore we're all welfare (well, 99.5% of us)

    And anyone who bought a house with a loan is on welfare as well.
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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    Never have.

    *knock wood*
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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Sorry, I forgot for a moment how quite literal people are here. :P I am talking about things like foodstamps, housing assistance, things like that.
    Not sure why you want to make a distinction between different kinds of assistance. Personal financial assistance from official sources is basically welfare, college grants, disability payments, foodstamps etc. If you want to distinguish between different kinds, you might like to be specific about what you deem to be welfare and why you make distinctions.
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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Not sure why you want to make a distinction between different kinds of assistance. Personal financial assistance from official sources is basically welfare, college grants, disability payments, foodstamps etc. If you want to distinguish between different kinds, you might like to be specific about what you deem to be welfare and why you make distinctions.
    Exactly. Hence why anyone who buys food from a grocery store is on welfare. And anyone who takes a home mortgage deduction on their taxes is on welfare.
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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Exactly. Hence why anyone who buys food from a grocery store is on welfare. And anyone who takes a home mortgage deduction on their taxes is on welfare.
    How is a person on welfare by buying food from a grocery store.
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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    How is a person on welfare by buying food from a grocery store.
    Do you understand the concept of corporate welfare to the large agricultural companies in the US? It's functionally trickle down financial assistance from official sources. Ethanol is a good example of this too. When we define welfare as "financial assistance from official sources" that makes a great many products we use welfare related and by using them, we use welfare.
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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Do you understand the concept of corporate welfare to the large agricultural companies in the US? It's functionally trickle down financial assistance from official sources. Ethanol is a good example of this too. When we define welfare as "financial assistance from official sources" that makes a great many products we use welfare related and by using them, we use welfare.
    Ah, I see what you're saying now. I took the term welfare in the OP to be defined as what most Americans associate the term 'welfare' with. Food stamps, reduced housing based on poverty levels. Public assistance in the simplest of definitions.
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    Re: How many here have ever been on any type of welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Do you understand the concept of corporate welfare to the large agricultural companies in the US? It's functionally trickle down financial assistance from official sources. Ethanol is a good example of this too. When we define welfare as "financial assistance from official sources" that makes a great many products we use welfare related and by using them, we use welfare.
    I think the connections get a bit tenuous when you use a broad definition like that. It could be argued that everyone is taking advantage of "welfare" at all times by living in a society with a functioning economy, paved roads, and laws against murder. If you define something that broadly, it loses all meaning.

    I think that one possible way to describe "welfare" in the sense that the OP is getting at would be "benefits bestowed directly upon an individual for reasons other than engaging in an economically preferred activity."

    Student loans and the home buyer tax credit would be excluded from this definition, while food stamps and disability payments would be included.
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