View Poll Results: What conditions for government assistance/welfare?

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  • Time limits

    20 71.43%
  • Must look for work/better work

    28 100.00%
  • School/community service substitute

    18 64.29%
  • Random drug testing

    19 67.86%
  • Mandatory/highly encouraged birth control

    13 46.43%
  • No extra monetary amounts for more children

    16 57.14%
  • Food stamp limits (what bought, how much given)

    17 60.71%
  • WIC-like food stamps

    9 32.14%
  • System is fine the way it is

    1 3.57%
  • Other

    4 14.29%
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    Re: What conditions would place on receiving government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    actually i do serve them. it's called a soup kitchen. i don't worry about why the people are there.

    putting more kids in a broken foster care system isn't the amswer. the answer is to change the culture. most states have workfare programs, and some have time limits for welfare recipients. but to expect that everyone can find a job in this economy is nuts. it won't happen.

    isn't one of the requirements of your soup kitchen that they actually come to the soup kitchen?

    no one is saying you have to have a job...simply that you be actively looking for one. is that too freakin much to ask? that you make some small pathetic attempt to help yourself?
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    Re: What conditions would place on receiving government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    isn't one of the requirements of your soup kitchen that they actually come to the soup kitchen?

    no one is saying you have to have a job...simply that you be actively looking for one. is that too freakin much to ask? that you make some small pathetic attempt to help yourself?
    ok.....i can agree with that one restriction.

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    Re: What conditions would place on receiving government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    actually i do serve them. it's called a soup kitchen. i don't worry about why the people are there.

    putting more kids in a broken foster care system isn't the amswer. the answer is to change the culture. most states have workfare programs, and some have time limits for welfare recipients. but to expect that everyone can find a job in this economy is nuts. it won't happen.
    See, I agree with this. That is mainly why I think that there should be acceptable tradeoff time for things like community service and/or school, in place of work or applying for work. There is not necessarily going to be jobs or enough good paying jobs that people are qualified for in the area, and it is not reasonable to consider that everyone of the people who are on Welfare can afford to leave the area they are in. There are some people who simply can't move. And so if there are other options available, then they are still helping in the overall community. They are getting the money anyway, so I say make them work in some way, shape or form for it.

    Some of the community service type projects that they could do implement that might help people overall could include child care education/certification, then some of the people on Welfare could be looking after other recipients' children so that those other recipients can more easily find jobs and/or work. Another could be helping to improve local community centers, schools, and playgrounds, which could help their community to be safer and better places to live. Some of the jobs could work with what skills the people have. With the current unemployment situation, there certainly could be people with job experience that could help others improve their own lives, including financial specialists, people who could teach others some skills they have such as typing and trade jobs, lawyers/legal experts, teachers that could be tutors for underpriveleged children, and trade skilled people who could be helping others with personal fix-up jobs that may improve their own lives, including automotive repairs, household repairs, and counselors. I'm sure there are also plenty of other things that people working together could improve for each other, and therefore, hopefully, help to make other people who are having hard times better in their own situations and more productive members of society.
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    Re: What conditions would place on receiving government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    See, I agree with this. That is mainly why I think that there should be acceptable tradeoff time for things like community service and/or school, in place of work or applying for work. There is not necessarily going to be jobs or enough good paying jobs that people are qualified for in the area, and it is not reasonable to consider that everyone of the people who are on Welfare can afford to leave the area they are in. There are some people who simply can't move. And so if there are other options available, then they are still helping in the overall community. They are getting the money anyway, so I say make them work in some way, shape or form for it.

    Some of the community service type projects that they could do implement that might help people overall could include child care education/certification, then some of the people on Welfare could be looking after other recipients' children so that those other recipients can more easily find jobs and/or work. Another could be helping to improve local community centers, schools, and playgrounds, which could help their community to be safer and better places to live. Some of the jobs could work with what skills the people have. With the current unemployment situation, there certainly could be people with job experience that could help others improve their own lives, including financial specialists, people who could teach others some skills they have such as typing and trade jobs, lawyers/legal experts, teachers that could be tutors for underpriveleged children, and trade skilled people who could be helping others with personal fix-up jobs that may improve their own lives, including automotive repairs, household repairs, and counselors. I'm sure there are also plenty of other things that people working together could improve for each other, and therefore, hopefully, help to make other people who are having hard times better in their own situations and more productive members of society.
    I can agree with that. my only problem is with those who insist on getting a free ride.

    if you are sitting in govt housing that my taxes pay for, eating food bought with food stamps that my taxes pay for, receiving medical care that my taxes pay for...then you have no right to say a damn thing to me when I complain about having to pay taxes.
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    Re: What conditions would place on receiving government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I can agree with that. my only problem is with those who insist on getting a free ride.

    if you are sitting in govt housing that my taxes pay for, eating food bought with food stamps that my taxes pay for, receiving medical care that my taxes pay for...then you have no right to say a damn thing to me when I complain about having to pay taxes.
    I agree completely. I don't think that it is fair to allow children to starve for their parents being lazy or greedy, but I don't believe that most on welfare are actually lazy or greedy. I think there are a lot who want to work but find themselves in situations where they can't find work that they can do due to lack of money, transportation, childcare, phone, skills, or just that the job wouldn't cover their needs completely. I think it is important to accept that realistically, especially in our current economy, that not everyone will be able to find suitable work for them, so they need to have alternatives to they still can get assistance as long as they are doing something worthwhile to earn it.

    I also know what you were talking about with owning a car being a hindrance to receiving assistance. This is probably one of the main things that prevented my parents from getting the assistance that we probably could have used for a little while while I was growing up, despite both my parents working or going to school. In NC, at least it used to be, having assets over a certain amount (even if such assets couldn't really be disposed of for that amount realistically or easily) could prevent a person from getting certain assistance.
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    Re: What conditions would place on receiving government assistance?

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