View Poll Results: What conditions for government assistance/welfare?

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    20 71.43%
  • Must look for work/better work

    28 100.00%
  • School/community service substitute

    18 64.29%
  • Random drug testing

    19 67.86%
  • Mandatory/highly encouraged birth control

    13 46.43%
  • No extra monetary amounts for more children

    16 57.14%
  • Food stamp limits (what bought, how much given)

    17 60.71%
  • WIC-like food stamps

    9 32.14%
  • System is fine the way it is

    1 3.57%
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Thread: What conditions would place on receiving government assistance?

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    Re: What conditions would place on receiving government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I was suprised as well. but the way they explained it to me was that in order to qualify for food stamps you could not have any real property assets and since I owned my car outright it was considered an asset that I could sell for cash to buy food. even though it was over 20 years old and worth about $500. but yet some POS making payments on a cadilac could get food stamps because they didn't "own" the car.
    Doe that mean you'd also have to sell your house if you were paying a mortgage on one?

    With cars... that doesn't really make sense. Just because you own a car doesn't mean you have the money to insure it, or buy gas for it. It could be rotting in your garage (if you even have a garage) for all they know. And having a car can increase employment opportunities. I just don't understand that.

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    Re: What conditions would place on receiving government assistance?

    No one should get government assistance free for nothing, nor should welfare recipients be encouraged to have more children by paying them more for reproduction. If a person is healthy and of at least normal intelligence, then they need to be improving job skills and/or looking for work. If they are not employable in a regular job, then they need to be doing community service work of some kind.

    So, how would we enforce all of those shoulds? Would we simply allow people who refuse to comply to starve?
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    Re: What conditions would place on receiving government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Doe that mean you'd also have to sell your house if you were paying a mortgage on one?
    no because you don't "own" it...the bank does.

    With cars... that doesn't really make sense. Just because you own a car doesn't mean you have the money to insure it, or buy gas for it. It could be rotting in your garage (if you even have a garage) for all they know. And having a car can increase employment opportunities. I just don't understand that.

    neither did I, maybe they were just giving me a hard time because I was a white guy. probably should've sent my wife down to apply and had her carry the kids with her.
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    Re: What conditions would place on receiving government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So, how would we enforce all of those shoulds? Would we simply allow people who refuse to comply to starve?
    if they are too stupid or lazy to comply then yes. darwinism in action.
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    Re: What conditions would place on receiving government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    if they are too stupid or lazy to comply then yes. darwinism in action.
    um....able minded and bodied people without children don't get welfare........or are you forgetting that?

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    Re: What conditions would place on receiving government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    no because you don't "own" it...the bank does.




    neither did I, maybe they were just giving me a hard time because I was a white guy. probably should've sent my wife down to apply and had her carry the kids with her.
    yeah, but your equity in your home is an asset.

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    Re: What conditions would place on receiving government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    um....able minded and bodied people without children don't get welfare........or are you forgetting that?
    what does that have to do with anything? If you are a POS single mom with 7 freakin kids living on welfare and you are too lazy/stubborned/stupid to comply then yes...as harsh as it may be, you need to ****ing starve and your kids need to go into fostercare...they'd probably be better off.
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    Re: What conditions would place on receiving government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    yeah, but your equity in your home is an asset.
    hey, I didn't make the rule...I just got shafted by it. and as I said, it is/was a distinct possibilty that they were making the whole damn thing up just to deny me service because I was a young white guy. All I know is what the two ladies and the food stamp office told me.
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    Re: What conditions would place on receiving government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    hey, I didn't make the rule...I just got shafted by it. and as I said, it is/was a distinct possibilty that they were making the whole damn thing up just to deny me service because I was a young white guy. All I know is what the two ladies and the food stamp office told me.
    i'm not denying it happened....calm down. you didn't even have a home at that point.

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    Re: What conditions would place on receiving government assistance?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    what does that have to do with anything? If you are a POS single mom with 7 freakin kids living on welfare and you are too lazy/stubborned/stupid to comply then yes...as harsh as it may be, you need to ****ing starve and your kids need to go into fostercare...they'd probably be better off.
    i wonder what percentage of moms on welfare have 7 kids?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

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