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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    The Nazi's in the second world war whether they agreed with what they were doing were "just following orders".. well so were these firemen.
    welcome to kooksville. comparing these firemen to Nazis is beyond stupid
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    welcome to kooksville. comparing these firemen to Nazis is beyond stupid
    I compared it in terms of how they rationalised what they .. didn't do. Of course they are not Nazi's for **** sake. Other then that quote you didn't have an issue with the real point of the post did you?

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    I compared it in terms of how they rationalised what they .. didn't do. Of course they are not Nazi's for **** sake. Other then that quote you didn't have an issue with the real point of the post did you?
    actually yes. I feel that one of the biggest issues we have today is people not wanting to take personal responsibility for their actions. This guy knew how the system works, he chose not to participate. the fire department was under no obligation, moral or legal, to put out this fire. It is past time that we started holding people accountable for their actions/choices/mistakes.

    Do I feel sorry for this guy that he lost everything? yes, but it was his own damn fault and he brought it on himself.

    On a side note: Not sure exactly how far from my area this part of TN is, but in most parts of North Alabama there is a burn ban in effect until the end of October, due to the dryness of the region. By allowing his grandson to burn trash in barrels ridiculously close to his house, this guy may have committed an illegal act.

    I guess my main point is, there should be consequences for stupid
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post

    I guess my main point is, there should be consequences for stupid
    Stupid would be in this case, believing that taxes are wasted on valuable public services that are actually cheaper then if provided privately. The idiocy from the far right seems to be that all government is wasteful and more expensive then private services. This is an outright lie and anyone who believes it has been duped. Hence I agree being stupid does have consequences.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    maybe because this dumbass redneck lost everything he owned due to his own stupidity and cheapness? maybe if more people made fun of other people for doing stupid, self destructive ****, instead of coddling them, people might stop doing as much stupid ****
    It's one thing to use this as an object lesson.

    It's another thing entirely to make light of it.

    If the guy had burned down his own house because of his own stupidity, I suppose that's one thing. This is something entirely different.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Stupid would be in this case, believing that taxes are wasted on valuable public services that are actually cheaper then if provided privately. The idiocy from the far right seems to be that all government is wasteful and more expensive then private services. This is an outright lie and anyone who believes it has been duped. Hence I agree being stupid does have consequences.
    which I would agree...IF this guy had paid taxes to the city...which he did NOT. Perhaps the county residents should pay a tax to fund a county fire department instead of bitching that the city FD won't come outside the city limits and service them for free.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post

    If the guy had burned down his own house because of his own stupidity, I suppose that's one thing. This is something entirely different.
    the guy allowed his grandson to burn trash in barrels close to the house, he waited until the fire was beyond his control before he did anything about it. so, basically...he did burn down his own house because of his own stupidity.

    I burn trash at my place all the time. I have a "burn pit" that is located about 100 feet away from the back of my house. I always stand by with a hose, just in case.

    Basic common sense and a few simple precautions could have kept the fire from reaching the house.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    which I would agree...IF this guy had paid taxes to the city...which he did NOT. Perhaps the county residents should pay a tax to fund a county fire department instead of bitching that the city FD won't come outside the city limits and service them for free.
    Yeah well in a publicly funded system whichever fire department is closest just helps. In my very humble opinion I think they should have helped but clearly this is what happens when you privatise a public service. Clearly this is the sort of thing that the general population should be alerted to as a consequence to smaller government and taxes paid.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Stupid would be in this case, believing that taxes are wasted on valuable public services that are actually cheaper then if provided privately. The idiocy from the far right seems to be that all government is wasteful and more expensive then private services. This is an outright lie and anyone who believes it has been duped. Hence I agree being stupid does have consequences.
    This was a public, city funded fire department. This guy just didn't live in the taxing jurisdiction of the city that provided fire service.
    Last edited by buck; 10-06-10 at 12:49 PM.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    This was a public city funded fire department.
    Hrm.. thats pretty sad. I definitely think it should have been put out. But the thing here is the city is acting like a private business. In my country these services are paid for by local and provincial taxes and everyone is just covered. I can't believe how messed up the American political condition is.

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