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Thread: Was the fire department right or wrong?

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Several animals died.. They fire fighters should be charged with animal cruelty at a minimum.
    Animals are only important if they are being tossed in the garbage, or in the river. Standing there with your hose turned off while they barbecue is standard fireman hero policy. They become merely possessions.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    Animals are only important if they are being tossed in the garbage, or in the river. Standing there with your hose turned off while they barbecue is standard fireman hero policy. They become merely possessions.
    ... And in the lengthy period of time as they were watching the fire creep towards their house, the owners couldn't have saved their own valuable property? Stop with the damn appeals to emotion, people. It just makes your argument look tacky.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    ... And in the lengthy period of time as they were watching the fire creep towards their house, the owners couldn't have saved their own valuable property? .
    Why should they have to when people capable of putting it out, with the right equipment on hand were right there?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Morally they were right. They did their duty as proscribed.
    IMO, if they were doing their duties, trhey would have put out the fire before it spread - insteasd of WAITING until it reached [and damaged] the neighbor's house. For Christ's sake, they are firefighters, they shoulod KNOW how unpredictable and dangerous fires can be.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    Why should they have to when people capable of putting it out, with the right equipment on hand were right there?



    IMO, if they were doing their duties, trhey would have put out the fire before it spread - insteasd of WAITING until it reached [and damaged] the neighbor's house. For Christ's sake, they are firefighters, they shoulod KNOW how unpredictable and dangerous fires can be.
    The fire burned for a period of time after the family set their own house on fire and before the FD showed up. That's ample time to run in and get your valuables. These people lived in the country, it's not like the FD was immediately on scene. I'm fact, they only responded when they received the call from the paying customer.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Was the fire department right or wrong when the let a home burn to the ground because the owner had not paid the $75 fee?
    After mulling it overi n another thread I think the guy was a douche - it seems he didn't pay on purpose and his attitude was crappy. He knew his house was likely to be engulfed (when eventually it was after several hours) but didn't lift his own little nubbs to help his animals - and then tried to pin it all on the firefighters.

    However - on a moral and accountability level - the firefighters have now brought a heap of problems on them. People *trust* them to do their job. What if there was a clerical error which shows that "someone didn't pay their due" - but they actually did and *if* they had some time they could get a statement from the bank to prove it.

    If you're a full time, paid firefighter - fighting fires is your job. . . deal with the riff raff AFTER you do your job.

    If it's money - then the people who should deal with that are the bill-intakes and others who live in the realm at the office.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So it was run by local government. This means the government is not protecting citizens
    the city govt was protecting the city citizens. this guy lived outside the city, paid no taxes to the city and therefore was entitled to no services from the city.

    claiming this govt wasn't protecting its citizens is like blaming the El Paso FD for not putting out a fire in Juarez Mexico.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    Why should they have to when people capable of putting it out, with the right equipment on hand were right there?
    um...personal responsibility? there was plenty of time for this redneck to get his animals out before the FD showed up.



    IMO, if they were doing their duties, trhey would have put out the fire before it spread - insteasd of WAITING until it reached [and damaged] the neighbor's house. For Christ's sake, they are firefighters, they shoulod KNOW how unpredictable and dangerous fires can be.

    since the guy hadn't paid the fee...any action taken on his behalf would have opened up liability issues for the firemen.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Listen, I don't mean to turn this into a Glenn thread, and I think anybody who has followed me around here knows I don't run around looking for excuses to bash on Beck.

    That said:

    Going further, Beck and his co-host actually mock Cranick and his southern accent through much of the segment (audio to the left). Both men portray Cranick as some kind of southern redneck who does not understand how the Tea Party, free market principles are suppose to work.

    Glenn Beck and co-host mock man whose house burned down in Tennessee - National Political Buzz | Examiner.com
    I realize the guy is a showman and not a serious commentator or newscaster or journalist.

    Nevertheless, you're seriously going to make fun of someone who lost everything he owns just to make a buck?

    Seriously?

    How can you do that and still call yourself a human being?
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Listen, I don't mean to turn this into a Glenn thread, and I think anybody who has followed me around here knows I don't run around looking for excuses to bash on Beck.

    That said:



    I realize the guy is a showman and not a serious commentator or newscaster or journalist.

    Nevertheless, you're seriously going to make fun of someone who lost everything he owns just to make a buck?

    Seriously?

    How can you do that and still call yourself a human being?
    maybe because this dumbass redneck lost everything he owned due to his own stupidity and cheapness? maybe if more people made fun of other people for doing stupid, self destructive ****, instead of coddling them, people might stop doing as much stupid ****
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    For the christians that hypocritically support libertarian economic policy.

    "The LOVE of money is the root of all evil" - The bible.

    Not that I'm a christian.. just sayin.

    I truly believe for a fire department to sit and watch this mans house burn down was wrong .. insured or not. It is a statement on the morality of society when you see so many in support of not helping this character out. I think it is a disgusting mentality/morality and anarchist to renege help for this man as he watched his life go up in flames.

    Yes people need to pay taxes to have public service.. yes people need to pay for private services. The private costs more in many instances. But that doesn't excuse these people as humans. The Nazi's in the second world war whether they agreed with what they were doing were "just following orders".. well so were these firemen.

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