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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Let us not be so condescending.

    The answer is that a policy that asks residents to pay a separate fee for fire protection is bad policy. Every home, every single one, should be covered by fire protection automatically -- on their real estate tax bill. If one lives in a rural area, outside city limits, then that particular area should have a contract with a 'closest town' to provide fire protection for each and every residence. And it should be paid for by putting a separate line item on one's real estate bill. Sending a yearly statement is ridiculous. Bill gets lost in the mail. Check gets lost in the mail. Somebody forgets.
    Yet this man's Bill did not get lost in the mail.
    This man's check did not get lost in the mail.
    Because this man voluntarily chose not to pay.

    Let us not make up and create excuses for someone who made the voluntary decision not to pay for services.

    Its obvious to me, and anyone who thinks about it really, that the residents of this county had two decades to elect officials that would either enact a better policy, or find funding to create volunteer fire departments in the area. The failure of the residents to do so shows that they were happy/content with this method of fire protection services. Who are we to tell them what they SHOULD do when it was obvious that they were happy and or at least content with it.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Yet this man's Bill did not get lost in the mail.
    This man's check did not get lost in the mail.
    Because this man voluntarily chose not to pay.

    Let us not make up and create excuses for someone who made the voluntary decision not to pay for services.

    Its obvious to me, and anyone who thinks about it really, that the residents of this county had two decades to elect officials that would either enact a better policy, or find funding to create volunteer fire departments in the area. The failure of the residents to do so shows that they were happy/content with this method of fire protection services. Who are we to tell them what they SHOULD do when it was obvious that they were happy and or at least content with it.
    I'm not making up anything. It's poor public policy. The poorest, as far as I'm concerned.

    In my neck of the woods, which seems to make a difference, this is absolutely unheard of. Everyone has fire protection provided by pre-designated fire departments. No bills are sent because the fee-for-service is included in everyone's property tax bills.

    Please tell me you don't check to see if someone's property tax bill is current before you respond to a domestic dispute. Please.

    The fire department's sole purpose is to put out fires. Had they been asked by a nearby community to assist in a large fire, off they'd go. But here, they checked their records, saw the guy hadn't paid his $75, and let the freakin' house burn down. Inexcusable, imo.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    They responded BECAUSE the neighbor was concerned about his home being at risk.
    And if he wasn't living there, then they wouldn't have responded and I'm sure the fire would be far more out of control. The fact that a "paying customer" was the neighbor to the house that caught fire is luck given this completely asinine system.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Can't they both be wrong? They guy should have paid the $75 but it was a dick move not to put his house out. Nobody really profited here. The dude isn't more likely to pay his $75 now that his house has burned down and the rest of the neighborhood may pay but they are going to hate those people who let the house burn. The community is no better off.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So it was run by local government. This means the government is not protecting citizens
    The firemen do protect the citizens of the local government. This individual was outside of the boundaries of the local government that the firedepartment worked for.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    The firemen do protect the citizens of the local government. This individual was outside of the boundaries of the local government that the firedepartment worked for.
    Firemen were playing politics. So know saving property and lives is about money

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Firemen were playing politics. So know saving property and lives is about money
    Correction: The fire fighters were following their orders. Keeping your job is about playing by the rules.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Firemen were playing politics. So know saving property and lives is about money
    I guess it always has been. They can't save lives and property without money/funding. If no one paid for the service (like this guy) the fire department would cease to exist. The fire department exists to save people within ther boundaries. This guy was outside of their boundaries.

    They have an agreement with those outside of their boundaries, if you pay for the service, we will assist. If you don't pay for the service, we will not. This guy, knowing the consequences and having had a previous issue with a fire and 3 years ago, made his choice. He made this choice even after recieving a reminder call after the fire department didn't recieve the necessary fee.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I guess it always has been. They can't save lives and property without money/funding. If no one paid for the service (like this guy) the fire department would cease to exist. The fire department exists to save people within ther boundaries. This guy was outside of their boundaries.

    They have an agreement with those outside of their boundaries, if you pay for the service, we will assist. If you don't pay for the service, we will not. This guy, knowing the consequences and having had a previous issue with a fire and 3 years ago, made his choice. He made this choice even after recieving a reminder call after the fire department didn't recieve the necessary fee.
    So then let his house burn and endanger property of those that paid? They should be charged when they have a fire. There is no expense if they do not go out of there jurisdiction.

    Was the guy stupid? YES but that does not justify watching his house burn down.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So then let his house burn and endanger property of those that paid? They should be charged when they have a fire. There is no expense if they do not go out of there jurisdiction.

    Was the guy stupid? YES but that does not justify watching his house burn down.
    Of course there is an expense. additionally there are risks to firemen that are responding to the fire. Lastly, if they're going to put everyones fire out even if they don't pay, what's the incentive for someone to pay? You're just making it more likely that people will take the gamble, not pay and hope they don't have a fire. A fine after the fact just adds additional collection costs without any assurance that the fire department will ever be paid.

    BTW, I personally think the county should add fire protection to all of the property tax bills. However, until they do that, this is the way it is handled.
    Last edited by buck; 10-05-10 at 10:53 PM.

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