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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Despite the what-if situations, in this case the home owner stuffed up, however, I think the best solution to prevent this happening again would be for the local government to contract with the city FD, and just include the price of the services in taxes.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Despite the what-if situations, in this case the home owner stuffed up, however, I think the best solution to prevent this happening again would be for the local government to contract with the city PD, and just include the price of the services in taxes.
    An excellent idea.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It's just like insurance, if everyone paid the fee after the fact, there would no longer be insurance companies because the claims would overwhelm the premiums.



    Not really.
    I hate to be an ass but risking human lives for pets, just isn't worth the cost of city services.
    The way the story reads is they were right there, ready to put it out. Seem like an extreme lesson in moral hazard.

    The local pyro should teach the mayor a lesson in poetic justice.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Despite the what-if situations, in this case the home owner stuffed up, however, I think the best solution to prevent this happening again would be for the local government to contract with the city PD, and just include the price of the services in taxes.
    Yep, this would have prevented this whole messy situation.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It's a fee, the city is offering it to county residents because there is no county FD.
    It's voluntary because the city has no tax jurisdiction.
    It is BS if they have a fire bill them. To prepay is a tax for a service you may never need. They do not call it a tax because it would be illegal

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Did they know everyone was out? What if there was someone in there, would they still have sat there? It's scary to think about.

    These kind of services should be paid for in taxes, and should be a government service, plain and simple.
    The rural community this man lived in did not have a fire department. Nor did it apparely have a volunteer fire department.
    These folks had to depend on coverage from a town far away, whose taxes they did not pay, for services.
    Thus the 75 dollar fee.
    Before 1990, there was no coverage in this rural county at all, the nearby town offered to assist them with coverage for a yearly 75 dollar fee. It was their choice, 75 bucks and fire coverage, or no money and no coverage.

    This guy chose no coverage. And that is what he got.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    The way the story reads is they were right there, ready to put it out. Seem like an extreme lesson in moral hazard.
    It attests to the fact that, there is no free lunch.
    It may be extreme but small cities don't have boat loads of cash to play with.

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    The local pyro should teach the mayor a lesson in poetic justice.
    I don't think that's constructive at all.
    The guy owns a house, with that comes all sorts of high dollar expenses.
    The least he can do is pay $75 for emergency fire services.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    That's my issue with this. There shouldn't have to be that fee. The firefighter's should be paid by the government to protect the people from fires. If you call the fire department, they should help you out. No matter what.
    They are. They are paid for by their city/county government to cover fires within said city/county.
    However, your not covered by FDNY down in Georgia are you?

    Although my example is a little bit of an exaggeration, do you get my point?
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It is BS if they have a fire bill them. To prepay is a tax for a service you may never need. They do not call it a tax because it would be illegal
    It's not a tax because it's voluntary.
    You and I both know that if they were to continue the trend of putting out fires for free, that the rest of the county residents would have no reason to pay the fee for fire services.

    That can quickly bankrupt a fire department.
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