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Thread: Was the fire department right or wrong?

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Not a fee a tax by the local government
    It's a fee, the city is offering it to county residents because there is no county FD.
    It's voluntary because the city has no tax jurisdiction.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Here's the deal with this specific case.

    The house fire was outside the taxing jurisdiction of the city, the city did provide fire service to county residents for a fee but it has to be optional because of the tax issue.
    Now if they still serviced the area while taking payments, after the fact, the city FD would go bust in a short time.

    They did state that, if there were lives in danger, that they would have intervened.
    Well thats a problem with the taxing jurisdiction. IMO, everyone should have protection provided by the police, and fire departments.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Well thats a problem with the taxing jurisdiction. IMO, everyone should have protection provided by the police, and fire departments.
    I agree, in this scenario though, the county and it's residents haven't lobbied to at least start a FD.

    Even a lot of remote Alaskan towns have a FD.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    But if they knew he didn't pay the fee, why did they dispatch to the scene? They responded, so they should have put out the fire, if they wanted to bill them after, fine, but don't watch the house burn. A burning house is a danger, and the danger should have been eliminated.
    They responded to his neighbor who did pay the $75 annual fee. The neighbor was concerned the fire would spread to their house so they called the fire department. The fire department is in charge of a nearby city, not this rural area.
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So it was run by local government. This means the government is not protecting citizens
    Wrong again. The local government doesn't provide any services at all. The FD is from a neighboring city.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    The fire department was totally in the right for not putting out that fire.

    1) While the homeowner's local government did not provide a fire department, an adjoining local government offered the services of the fire department for a $75 fee. The homeowner could have gotten it at any time.

    2) The fire department must intervene if a life is in danger. But everybody was out of the home, and so nobody's life was in danger from the fire.

    The blame can only be put on two:

    1) The homeowner for not paying the $75 for the service.
    2) The homeowner's local government for not bringing in tax revenue for fire department service.

    In absolutely no way is the fire department at fault or to blame in this particular scenario.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I agree, in this scenario though, the county and it's residents haven't lobbied to at least start a FD.

    Even a lot of remote Alaskan towns have a FD.
    Hopefully this scenario will get the ball rolling on that.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Hard to tell in all truthfulness.
    Best for a man to have his own fire suppression system, which is 95% prevention.
    But, over and over again, private concerns shoot themselves in the foot.
    How long is it going to take for the people to ignore right wing spin and see the light?
    I'll be nice and change lies to spin.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Here's the deal with this specific case.

    The house fire was outside the taxing jurisdiction of the city, the city did provide fire service to county residents for a fee but it has to be optional because of the tax issue.
    Now if they still serviced the area while taking payments, after the fact, the city FD would go bust in a short time.
    We get it, common sense conservatism.

    They did state that, if there were lives in danger, that they would have intervened.
    The dogs and cats don't make the cut.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    We get it, common sense conservatism.
    It's just like insurance, if everyone paid the fee after the fact, there would no longer be insurance companies because the claims would overwhelm the premiums.

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    The dogs and cats don't make the cut.
    Not really.
    I hate to be an ass but risking human lives for pets, just isn't worth the cost of city services.
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