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Thread: Was the fire department right or wrong?

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

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    That's my issue with this. There shouldn't have to be that fee. The firefighter's should be paid by the government to protect the people from fires. If you call the fire department, they should help you out. No matter what.
    That's a separate issue. In THIS scenario, there was a fee. He chose to not pay it, so he got no service. Makes perfect sense to me.


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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

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    That's my issue with this. There shouldn't have to be that fee. The firefighter's should be paid by the government to protect the people from fires. If you call the fire department, they should help you out. No matter what.
    Please....PLEASE. Read the articles, it pains me to repeat myself so much.

    The fire fighters are paid by a city government...to protect their city. Joe Cheapass and his burning home are not in the city.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Please....PLEASE. Read the articles, it pains me to repeat myself so much.

    The fire fighters are paid by a city government...to protect their city. Joe Cheapass and his burning home are not in the city.
    Please, thats like saying a cop shouldn't stop a rape because it's happening outside his jurisdiction.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    That's a separate issue. In THIS scenario, there was a fee. He chose to not pay it, so he got no service. Makes perfect sense to me.
    But if they knew he didn't pay the fee, why did they dispatch to the scene? They responded, so they should have put out the fire, if they wanted to bill them after, fine, but don't watch the house burn. A burning house is a danger, and the danger should have been eliminated.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    I cannot imagine a fireman who knew someone was in the house, but still refused to put the fire out.

    Yes, he should've paid for the service like he was supposed to. It's like insurance. You can't just not pay for insurance and then when your house is burning rush to the insurance office and say you'll pay for one month right now if they'll insure your burning house.
    By not putting the fire out they but the neighbors houses at risk

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    That's my issue with this. There shouldn't have to be that fee. The firefighter's should be paid by the government to protect the people from fires. If you call the fire department, they should help you out. No matter what.
    Here's the deal with this specific case.

    The house fire was outside the taxing jurisdiction of the city, the city did provide fire service to county residents for a fee but it has to be optional because of the tax issue.
    Now if they still serviced the area while taking payments, after the fact, the city FD would go bust in a short time.

    They did state that, if there were lives in danger, that they would have intervened.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    But if they knew he didn't pay the fee, why did they dispatch to the scene? They responded, so they should have put out the fire, if they wanted to bill them after, fine, but don't watch the house burn. A burning house is a danger, and the danger should have been eliminated.
    I believe they were protecting the houses near his house.


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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Wrong. This was NOT a volunteer FD.
    So it was run by local government. This means the government is not protecting citizens

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    They were completely in the right for the exact reasons I laid out in the actual thread about this story.

    ...and so far, the only opposition I have seen comes from people who aren't bothering to read the facts.
    What if there were kids in the house?

    BTW - the firemen think they did the WRONG thing.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    That's a separate issue. In THIS scenario, there was a fee. He chose to not pay it, so he got no service. Makes perfect sense to me.
    Not a fee a tax by the local government

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