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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    someone, anyone must be to blame...except for the one guy whose fault it actually is. the cheap bastard who wouldn't pay $75/year to protect his house.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    someone, anyone must be to blame...except for the one guy whose fault it actually is. the cheap bastard who wouldn't pay $75/year to protect his house.
    Likewise, the extreme opposite - 1 person being the one who must carry all the blame - just as bad. If there wasn't somebody there able to pay, the fire would have spread. People could have died, it would have then had the chance to become a serious wildfire if it hadn't already.

    If debts need to be settled, do it, but don't use it as an excuse to put properties and lifes in danger.



    Who think up the crap used to defend this? We aren't talking about car insurance here, or any other debt, but a case where firefighters COME TO THE SCENE of a fire [because the neighbor pays the out-of-town fee], and DOES NOTHING until the fire reaches the property line and allegedly damages the property - instead of stopping the damn fire to keep it from spreading at all and THEN settling any debts that may need to be taken care of.... how does that make ANY sense? How do you justify that?
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    You lack understanding.
    If these men (firefighters) had been at a barbeque across the street, off duty, not being paid by the city of South Fulton, and this fire broke out.... They would work their asses off to put that fire out.

    As it stands, they were on city time, being paid by the city, and being told by the city that they will not put the fire out. Helping someone out is not worth disobeying policy and getting fired. Im sure Mr. Clive Jenkins or whatever the **** this dude's name was (homeowner) was not going to support those firefighters and their families until said firefighters managed to find a new job after the city of South Fulton fired them.
    The person / people who decided it was a BAD IDEA to put out a house fire and let anyone burn and die is a criminal. A cop will stop someone that had 4 beers in a hour and have them treated liked a sex offender even if they havent had an accident... BUT firemen are NOT arrested / convicted of felony charges for refusing to help save lives????? To save property??? How hypocritical is THAT!?!??!
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    The person / people who decided it was a BAD IDEA to put out a house fire and let anyone burn and die is a criminal. A cop will stop someone that had 4 beers in a hour and have them treated liked a sex offender even if they havent had an accident... BUT firemen are NOT arrested / convicted of felony charges for refusing to help save lives????? To save property??? How hypocritical is THAT!?!??!
    no lives were in danger. the firemen were following city policy, they could've been fired/sued/etc if they had violated city policy and put out this fire earlier. sorry, bleeding hearts, but I am not going to risk my job and my ability to support my family to help someone who was too cheap to help themselves. want to be mad at someone...try the city, or better yet direct your anger at the dumbass who let his grandson start a fire next to his house.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Y'all do know that when fire departments were first formed they were extortion rackets that extorted money from businesses and private individuals to prevent the marks' business/home from being set on fire then watched as it burned to the ground. If your business/home caught fire by some other means the 'fire department' would put out the fire. Competition was fierce between the rival gangs that ran these fire departments.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Absolutely 100% wrong.

    If worse came to worse, they could have put out the blaze, and asked for the $75 later. Absolute bull****. Reflects badly on the firefighters.

    I'm here to help my fellow man. I will help them whether I'm being paid or not (within reason).

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Absolutely 100% wrong.

    If worse came to worse, they could have put out the blaze, and asked for the $75 later. Absolute bull****. Reflects badly on the firefighters.

    I'm here to help my fellow man. I will help them whether I'm being paid or not (within reason).

    what part of "the firemen could have lost their jobs and/or been sued if they put out the fire" do you people not understand? I will help my fellow man, but not if it puts my job or the security of my own family in danger.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    what part of "the firemen could have lost their jobs and/or been sued if they put out the fire" do you people not understand? I will help my fellow man, but not if it puts my job or the security of my own family in danger.
    That's the whole problem. The firefighters never should have been put in this situation.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

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    That's the whole problem. The firefighters never should have been put in this situation.
    agreed. but many people here continue to call these guys "monsters" and "evil" and scream for them to be fired. typical knee-jerk reaction, blaming someone without bothering to understand the situation.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    what part of "the firemen could have lost their jobs and/or been sued if they put out the fire" do you people not understand?
    I don't think it is a matter of understanding or not, but rather, a matter of thinking that it doesn't matter - that the law would side with them if they did it [putting out the fire] and getting fired. It would take a really good BSer to convince a judge that it was legal termination to stop a fire from spreading [or rather, it should - as it becomes apparent that there is some disconnect in this regard].
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