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Thread: Was the fire department right or wrong?

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Not ONLY were they wrong.... they should be charged willfully neglecting and felony animal abuse.
    So its the fire departments fault that the pets remained inside the house when the homeowner had plenty of time to get the pets out before the house ever caught fire?

    Emotional Appeal DENIED.

    Average citizens are not incapable of saving their own pets from a house that isn't on fire yet.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    So its the fire departments fault that the pets remained inside the house when the homeowner had plenty of time to get the pets out before the house ever caught fire?
    No, thouhg it could be argued that they are responsible for not doing everything they could to help save them.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I full well understand that I could get optional life insurance that would cover outside of the line of duty death if I wanted to. But im a healthy young man who doesn't think he needs it.

    If I go and get myself killed outside of the line of duty, I understand that my wife won't get anything. And she understands this, and you won't hear her bitching and moaning about how evil the city is for not paying it anyways.
    That you choose not to have that separate policy is your choice. That's the benefit you're provided. Firefighters have that same opton -- assuming THEIR unions aren't doing a better job of bargaining.

    As to your decision not to have separate life insurance, of course that's your choice. Hopefully if you have children, your wife can support them should you die other than in the line of duty....which is far more likely than not.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    So its the fire departments fault that the pets remained inside the house when the homeowner had plenty of time to get the pets out before the house ever caught fire?

    Emotional Appeal DENIED.

    Average citizens are not incapable of saving their own pets from a house that isn't on fire yet.
    Soooooooo.......
    what youre saying is if Fire fighters arent getting paid for what they want.... they let **** burn down? And they arent couragous? Honerable? Heroes? That they are doing their job based on PAY? You know what there are more people in society that would have done more that these criminals (fire fighters) did!!!! They dont deserve to be in parades. They dont deserve respect.
    Can YOU imagine NOT doing anything to help these people? I think those Fire Fighters are cowards and 100% dishonerable! I SPIT on their badge! I would have helped put the damn fire out and Im not even getting PAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Soooooooo.......
    what youre saying is if Fire fighters arent getting paid for what they want.... they let **** burn down? And they arent couragous? Honerable? Heroes? That they are doing their job based on PAY? You know what there are more people in society that would have done more that these criminals (fire fighters) did!!!! They dont deserve to be in parades. They dont deserve respect.
    Can YOU imagine NOT doing anything to help these people? I think those Fire Fighters are cowards and 100% dishonerable! I SPIT on their badge! I would have helped put the damn fire out and Im not even getting PAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    That's funny, I'd tell the homeowner where he could stuff his arrogant sense of entitlement and then ask him if he'd like to pay his $75 for the following year.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    That's funny, I'd tell the homeowner where he could stuff his arrogant sense of entitlement and then ask him if he'd like to pay his $75 for the following year.
    Way to be American Did you even read what happened? You have kids? Family pets? They DIED IN AGONY in a fire that could have been extinguished by your neighbors..... oh well.

    And those neighbors were trained at putting out fires AND they had the equipment.
    So much for heros. So much for honor. So much for being a good American.

    These "fire fighters" are criminals.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Way to be American Did you even read what happened? You have kids? Family pets? They DIED IN AGONY in a fire that could have been extinguished by your neighbors..... oh well.

    And those neighbors were trained at putting out fires AND they had the equipment.
    So much for heros. So much for honor. So much for being a good American.

    These "fire fighters" are criminals.
    Calm down and take a deep breath. In answering the poll question I voted that the firefighters were correct (that is technically). The situation is not unique. Even in big metro areas where no intergovt. agreement exsists firefighters have ran up and stoped at the edge of their protection area. Most federal wildland firefighters cannot fight structures except from the outside. There are placed in many States where houses exist outside town limits, have no fire protection. In some cases private or govt fire departments may offer a homeowner to purchase fire protection services. If they don't, they are on their own.

    I feel for the homeowner. I also feel for the fftr's. They were between a rock and a hard place. If they were injured/died fighting the fire it is possible they or their families would not be covered medically or death benifits. The firefighters may have been held liable for damage to fire equipment, etc.

    The firefighters are not criminals if they acted within the scope of the fire district jurisdiction. The homeowner had no policy with the fire department. The fire department had no obligation to assist. You can say this is not right. Then convince the elected officials and tax payers to fund fire departments at the level required.

    Until you have walked in the fftr's shoes, don't be so quick to judge.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Soooooooo.......
    what youre saying is if Fire fighters arent getting paid for what they want.... they let **** burn down?
    You arent entitled to services from a government that you did not pay taxes to.
    Its really that simple.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Soooooooo.......
    what youre saying is if Fire fighters arent getting paid for what they want.... they let **** burn down? And they arent couragous? Honerable? Heroes? That they are doing their job based on PAY? You know what there are more people in society that would have done more that these criminals (fire fighters) did!!!! They dont deserve to be in parades. They dont deserve respect.
    Can YOU imagine NOT doing anything to help these people? I think those Fire Fighters are cowards and 100% dishonerable! I SPIT on their badge! I would have helped put the damn fire out and Im not even getting PAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    You lack understanding.
    If these men (firefighters) had been at a barbeque across the street, off duty, not being paid by the city of South Fulton, and this fire broke out.... They would work their asses off to put that fire out.

    As it stands, they were on city time, being paid by the city, and being told by the city that they will not put the fire out. Helping someone out is not worth disobeying policy and getting fired. Im sure Mr. Clive Jenkins or whatever the **** this dude's name was (homeowner) was not going to support those firefighters and their families until said firefighters managed to find a new job after the city of South Fulton fired them.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post

    These "fire fighters" are criminals.
    No, they aren't.

    If anything the policy of the city of South Fulton is to blame, not the individuals firefighters.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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