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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I agree.

    And I think full time NYPD Detectives should come down to NC and handle the crime committed against me.......
    I think the cops in El Paso should be investigating all the murders that go on in Juarez.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Stupid would be in this case, believing that taxes are wasted on valuable public services that are actually cheaper then if provided privately. The idiocy from the far right seems to be that all government is wasteful and more expensive then private services. This is an outright lie and anyone who believes it has been duped. Hence I agree being stupid does have consequences.
    This county didn't have fire coverage until 1990 at all. The city that these firemen work for was doing the people of this county a great service by offering to come in and fight fires for a yearly fee to be paid in advance.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

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    For the christians that hypocritically support libertarian economic policy.

    "The LOVE of money is the root of all evil" - The bible.
    Ah yes - the Bible. Indeed it says that:

    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy 6:7
    7For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. 8But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. 9People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. 10For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Malachi 3:8
    6 "I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed. 7 Ever since the time of your forefathers you have turned away from my decrees and have not kept them. Return to me, and I will return to you," says the LORD Almighty.
    "But you ask, 'How are we to return?'

    8 "Will a man rob God? Yet you rob me.
    "But you ask, 'How do we rob you?'
    "In tithes and offerings. 9 You are under a curse—the whole nation of you—because you are robbing me. 10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this," says the LORD Almighty, "and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it. . . .
    the Bible also says

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    The Widow's Offering
    41Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts. 42But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins,[j]worth only a fraction of a penny.[k]

    43Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, "I tell you the truth, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. 44They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything—all she had to live on."


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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Your still failing to give this a good understanding.

    Lets give a good example that relates to me.

    I work off duty at a high school during football season for security at home games. I have the unfortunate duty of closing down the front entrance after the parking lot fills up and not letting anyone get in, due to people parking behind other people, in the grass areas that the school wants to preserve, etc. We inform those who can't park due to the lot being full that they can park at a school about 1/4 mile up the road. They instead park in the grass across the street from the school (4 lane road) and walk across the roadway. I have been informed NOT to stop traffic for the pedestrians crossing the roadway. Parking had been designated for these individuals at another location, and they chose not to park there. If I get out in traffic and try to stop cars to let the pedestrians cross, and for some reason I get run over by a car (which happens alot to officers directing traffic across the US), my medical expenses, worker's compsensation, and even in the event of death, life insurance will not cover the cost because I was acting outside of my duties with the off-duty employer, in this case being the school.

    You have to understand that if people violate their policy or orders from their superiors in situations like this, the employer is not liable for their injuries.


    I don't feel like I should throw my family's wellbeing down the toilet to try to help everyone else all the time. And neither should these firefighters.
    We're discussing this on two different threads. Yikes.

    Your analogy makes absolutely perfect sense. You are the employee of the school district. And, as such, you would be covered under their insurance -- Worker's Comp, or whatever. It's not the same thing, Caine.

    If you were killed in the performance of those duties, the school's Worker's Comp would cover you -- as would any life insurance policy you had. There's probably a higher benefit for "killed in the line of duty." Or, perhaps, that's the only kind of life insurance your benefit provides. But that's the only way your LIFE insurance wouldn't kick in. Hard to believe the only life benefit a PD gives a copper is one that provides for a benefit only if killed in the line of duty. Though I could, as I said, easily believe the benefit would be many times different than accidental or other death.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Dear lord, interview with the home owner who says he did not refuse to pay.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Dear lord, interview with the home owner who says he did not refuse to pay.

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    I'm sure he does say that NOW. His previous actions clearly are evidence to the contrary.
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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    I'm sure he does say that NOW. His previous actions clearly are evidence to the contrary.
    Yeah IDK he said what he said.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Dear lord, interview with the home owner who says he did not refuse to pay.

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    Typical Olbermann, he doesn't even understand how the system works, as evidenced in the first minute or so of that video.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    We're discussing this on two different threads. Yikes.

    Your analogy makes absolutely perfect sense. You are the employee of the school district. And, as such, you would be covered under their insurance -- Worker's Comp, or whatever. It's not the same thing, Caine.

    If you were killed in the performance of those duties, the school's Worker's Comp would cover you -- as would any life insurance policy you had. There's probably a higher benefit for "killed in the line of duty." Or, perhaps, that's the only kind of life insurance your benefit provides. But that's the only way your LIFE insurance wouldn't kick in. Hard to believe the only life benefit a PD gives a copper is one that provides for a benefit only if killed in the line of duty. Though I could, as I said, easily believe the benefit would be many times different than accidental or other death.
    I full well understand that I could get optional life insurance that would cover outside of the line of duty death if I wanted to. But im a healthy young man who doesn't think he needs it.

    If I go and get myself killed outside of the line of duty, I understand that my wife won't get anything. And she understands this, and you won't hear her bitching and moaning about how evil the city is for not paying it anyways.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Was the fire department right or wrong?

    Not ONLY were they wrong.... they should be charged willfully neglecting and felony animal abuse.
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