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Thread: Fences/Walls on USA borders, Yea or Nay? And if so, why?

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    Re: Fences/Walls on USA borders, Yea or Nay? And if so, why?

    I voted the 3rd option. I think they should, but they also need to strongly enforce immigration laws and tracking businesses that hire illegals. It's far to easy for them to lie and obtain jobs. Building a fence/wall will help a little, but we must focus within our borders as well, not just along them.
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    Re: Fences/Walls on USA borders, Yea or Nay? And if so, why?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    So, I was perusing one of the recent threads on Immigration, and these questions occurred to me:

    Can a case be made for construction of walls/fences/barriers on some or all of the land borders (and perhaps some sea borders? Dunno how that would work...) of the US?

    If you support such, why?

    If you oppose such, Why?

    And, whether you support or oppose such, are there variables involved that might convince you to switch?

    And other questions in that vein.
    I support building a wall and fences on the border.The harder it is to cross the less people that will be able to come into the US illegally in the US. You do not leave a faucet running at full blast just because there might be some leaks.Preferable I would like one way exits with no border checks in order to make it easier for those wishing to leave the US. That said a wall is only part of the solution, we should do what Oklahoma and Arizona have done to deter illegal immigration and encourage illegals to leave. We should also repeal part of the INS act of 1965 that allows for the chain migration of relatives other than spouse or minor children. Doing these things would remove incentives for people to stay here illegally..
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    Re: Fences/Walls on USA borders, Yea or Nay? And if so, why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Good idea in general except that once people realize what’s going on they will soon start making their own holes. And with illegal’s being returned to across the border and coming back a week later such a funnel system would soon be found out.
    Well, the actual fence would only be part of my imagined barrier.

    Removing incentives to cross is part of it as well.
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    Re: Fences/Walls on USA borders, Yea or Nay? And if so, why?

    Moat + sharks with laser beams, followed by a jungle of rabid koalas and then a KY wrestling match with a T1000.
    Not to deter illegal border crossers but because it sounds cool.

    If you make it through all those, you get automatic citizenship plus a trophy.
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    Re: Fences/Walls on USA borders, Yea or Nay? And if so, why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Moat + sharks with laser beams, followed by a jungle of rabid koalas and then a KY wrestling match with a T1000.
    Not to deter illegal border crossers but because it sounds cool.

    If you make it through all those, you get automatic citizenship plus a trophy.
    How the hell do we be build a jungle on the US - Canadian border, let alone the near-desert (in some areas) US - Mexico border?

    And besides, don't animals with rabies die after a short while, from the rabies? I sense an impending decline in the koala population…

    For that matter, where do we get a T1000?

    The moat with shark-mounted lasers might be possible, but it would still take a hell of a lot of water, and I understand they may have this water shortage issue in the southwest.

    Still though, if we had all that, the auto citizenship plus trophy might be in order.
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    Re: Fences/Walls on USA borders, Yea or Nay? And if so, why?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    How the hell do we be build a jungle on the US - Canadian border, let alone the near-desert (in some areas) US - Mexico border?
    Seeds + water = jungle.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    And besides, don't animals with rabies die after a short while, from the rabies? I sense an impending decline in the koala population…
    Design a non killing version of rabies, trust me it's a great idea.

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    For that matter, where do we get a T1000?
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    The moat with shark-mounted lasers might be possible, but it would still take a hell of a lot of water, and I understand they may have this water shortage issue in the southwest.
    We can use a water pump.

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    Still though, if we had all that, the auto citizenship plus trophy might be in order.
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    Re: Fences/Walls on USA borders, Yea or Nay? And if so, why?

    This will not work so why bother? They still come in
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    Re: Fences/Walls on USA borders, Yea or Nay? And if so, why?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    So, I was perusing one of the recent threads on Immigration, and these questions occurred to me:

    Can a case be made for construction of walls/fences/barriers on some or all of the land borders (and perhaps some sea borders? Dunno how that would work...) of the US?

    If you support such, why?

    If you oppose such, Why?

    And, whether you support or oppose such, are there variables involved that might convince you to switch?

    And other questions in that vein.
    I use to be against it
    Then I was 100% for it.
    Now I'm in the middle.

    Per fencing our border - I think yes, we need to define our border, maintain it, monitor it, and become more concerned with *who's* getting in - and why (it's not all just some guys wanting to pick berries - as many would like us to believe).

    so everything concerning our border-security needs to be reformed: our attitudes about it, the government's lack of give-a-damn, everyone's openness at the border - all this stuff needs a change.

    With how things are progressively *getting worse* along the entire border we're developing new and more serious problems beyond immigration concerns. And just twiddling our thumbs and doing nothing will simply permit it to escalate - you can't just ignore it like that, it won't go away.

    If 3 punky little adults could just "wander" into Iran atop a mountain on accident and be detained for over a year I think we can do a better job of somewhat giving a damn about ours.
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    Re: Fences/Walls on USA borders, Yea or Nay? And if so, why?

    I am pretty liberal on allowing people into the country, however there are always going to be people who we do not want crossing the border that will not be interested in passing through customs. As such I see plenty of reason for building a fence. Why make it easy for criminals to go back and forth?
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    Re: Fences/Walls on USA borders, Yea or Nay? And if so, why?

    It will be an epic failure/distraction and a waste of our money.
    An unseen problem is the wall/fence will be built under the premise of keeping people out but, in reality it will be keeping us in.
    We need real immigration reform, like making it easier for peaceful people to enter the country legally and eliminating the welfare state for illegal immigrants.
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