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    Re: Should America move to federally financed political campaigns?

    In this day and age of technology after the first several million used to campaign it becomes just buying votes. I also think those running for public office should be allowed to run negative ads. I certainly do not think a corporation is the same as an individual and should be allowed to donate an unlimited amount to a campaign. Each person runnning should have to turn in a monthly report on campaign accounting. Money is what has ruined our political process. Politicans are all about pumping up the war chest vs tending to the nation's business. It is epically warped. The money spent on campaigning is obscene and immoral. These candidates have so much $ swirling around them they begin to think they are above the law and above morality/ethics.

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    Re: Should America move to federally financed political campaigns?

    Most politicians would sooner endorse the clubbing of baby seals than oppose "campaign finance reform."

    Currently, an individual can contribute up to $1,000 per candidate per election; political action committees may spend $5,000 per candidate per election; and individuals may spend unlimited amounts of their own money on their own campaigns. Congress passed these limitations during the post-Watergate "let's get the money out of politics" frenzy. But these constraints, as always, simply induced candidates to figure out a way of raising more money. Enter the often-criticized "soft money," contributions made to political parties, with neither limits nor regulation.
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    Re: Should America move to federally financed political campaigns?

    You see this is a huge chink in the libertarian armour federally speaking. The Tea Party is the creation of the far right corporate interest and so it doesn't actually represent libertarian ideals but rather corporations special interest in federal government. Are libertarians being duped by the "Tea Party"?

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    Re: Should America move to federally financed political campaigns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    So corperate donations are ok in your book and it's simply an expression of freedom of speech huh?
    That's not the issue involved. The issue involved is that even if you do get federally financed political campaigns anyways, or inhibit corporate donations to candidates, there's nothing to stop an independent organization from putting out their own ad in favor of one candidate or criticizing another candidate.

    So even if, say, GM was prohibited from giving millions to Congressional candidates there's nothing to stop GM from instead giving millions to an independent "advocacy" organization which could then produce and broadcast it's own ads supporting or criticizing a candidate. Doing that can't be prohibited because of freedoms of speech and freedoms of assembly.

    If you're against corporate interests having an undue influence over federal legislation, then the answer isn't to limit campaign financing. Rather, the answer is to implement a system of federal popular initiatives that gives some amount of legislative control over the people. That's pretty much the only way it can be done.

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    Re: Should America move to federally financed political campaigns?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    That's not the issue involved. The issue involved is that even if you do get federally financed political campaigns anyways, or inhibit corporate donations to candidates, there's nothing to stop an independent organization from putting out their own ad in favor of one candidate or criticizing another candidate.

    So even if, say, GM was prohibited from giving millions to Congressional candidates there's nothing to stop GM from instead giving millions to an independent "advocacy" organization which could then produce and broadcast it's own ads supporting or criticizing a candidate. Doing that can't be prohibited because of freedoms of speech and freedoms of assembly.

    If you're against corporate interests having an undue influence over federal legislation, then the answer isn't to limit campaign financing. Rather, the answer is to implement a system of federal popular initiatives that gives some amount of legislative control over the people. That's pretty much the only way it can be done.
    I disagree. Third party advertisment should just be outlawed and campains financed by the public. End this bull**** lobbying.

    Edit: campain donations from corperations should be criminal and individual contributions capped and monitored.
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    Re: Should America move to federally financed political campaigns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    I disagree. Third party advertisment should just be outlawed and campains financed by the public. End this bull**** lobbying.
    So what's the difference between a third-party advertisement, a public service announcement regarding government issues from a private organization, and a blogger who posts on the internet advocating one candidate's policy over another?

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    Re: Should America move to federally financed political campaigns?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    So what's the difference between a third-party advertisement, a public service announcement regarding government issues from a private organization, and a blogger who posts on the internet advocating one candidate's policy over another?
    It isn't a public service announcement if it is done by a private organization. It's a private service announcement. Corporations don't have a vote they are not individuals.. they should never make donations to your elected representatives.

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    Re: Should America move to federally financed political campaigns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    It isn't a public service announcement if it is done by a private organization. It's a private service announcement. Corporations don't have a vote they are not individuals.. they should never make donations to your elected representatives.
    Okay then. What about executives who are in charge of corporations? There's nothing to stop them from donating to candidates in order to pursue the benefit of the corporation they are a part of.

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    Re: Should America move to federally financed political campaigns?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Okay then. What about executives who are in charge of corporations? There's nothing to stop them from donating to candidates in order to pursue the benefit of the corporation they are a part of.
    I see less of a problem with private citizens contributing as long as its their money and not the corp's.

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    Re: Should America move to federally financed political campaigns?

    There is a way to fix the problem of independent groups putting out junk political ads: ban all political ads. Institute mandatory formal debate in writing/television in its place for all candidates. All funding should be public, based on tax dollars. There should be no independent funding allowed, from corporations or citizens.
    Last edited by Technocratic; 09-30-10 at 02:49 PM.

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