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Worst American Presidents

Worst American President

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Kali said:
Bush! How can people not see that? Obama has more votes than Bush:(
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Maybe the tendency to cry racism and use race as a means of stirring up votes brings his 'accomplishments' down a little. Or the 24% increase to the national debt on only 2 years. Or the complete inaction and lack of leadership on pretty much EVERYTHING.
 
VanceMack said:
Maybe the tendency to cry racism and use race as a means of stirring up votes brings his 'accomplishments' down a little. Or the 24% increase to the national debt on only 2 years. Or the complete inaction and lack of leadership on pretty much EVERYTHING.
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I have never saw that man cry about anything of the sort.
 
Chappy said:
Good God, GWB speeches alone rank him as the worst ****ing president ever.
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Your response is nothing but a diatribe of ad hom. Let me know when you have someting subtantive.
 
MajinLink said:
Ronald Reagan for modern history. I guess Harrison for the old history since all he did was get sick and die.
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Reagan did some good things for the economy. He would have been a great President if he had not committed three horrible actions:

1. Allowed payroll (FICA) taxes to increase from 7.9% to 15%--almost doubling the tax burdens of poor working people.

2. Approved RICO--allowing the government to seize cash and other assets from innocent people with impunity under pretenses that it might be drug related.

3. Gave weapons, cash, and assistance to the Mujahadeen to fight the Russians, thereby creating the Taliban. If it wasn't for this, 911 would have never happened.


CaptainCourtesy said:
Tough choice. Buchanan, Harding, or Coolidge. I can excuse Harding to some extent. He was just stupid and completely unqualified for the job... even he knew it. He wasn't corrupt as much as those he put in important positions were corrupt. Buchanan's lack of leadership and action lead to the Civil War, Coolidge's lack of leadership and action lead to the Great Depression. Hmmm... Buchanan was a life long statesman, having been a Representative, a Senator, and a Secretary of State, and should have known better. I give him a little sympathy because he did not have the kind of personality to be President during the time in which he served, a time that required strong leadership, but that does not excuse his failures.
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I mostly disagree. None of these are anywhere near the top for worst President. Coolidge, in particular, was one of our BEST. He did NOT contribute to the great depression; that was Hoover, and later, FDR. Our economy under Coolidge was extremeny prosperous. Hoover practiced greater fiscal responsibility than all but three or four other Presidents.

The worst Presidents are:

1. FDR--imposed massive socialism onto America; we are still suffering from it. He also agitated the Japanese into bombing Pearl Harbor to get us into a war (Remember his "I hate war" lie?).
2. Lincoln--imposed the War of Northern Aggression, created 1st military draft and 1st attempt at federal income tax.
3. LBJ--Vietnam war, "Great Society," other massive socialist interventions.
4. Wilson--Federal income tax, massive spending and debt increases.
5. Obama--I don't even need to mention all the crap that he has done.
 
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Kali said:
I have never saw that man cry about anything of the sort.
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"You know, the slaves sitting around a fire singing freedom songs, they weren't sure when slavery would end, but they understood it was going to end,"

"now's not the time to quit...it took time to free the slaves...ultimately we'll make progress."

Nope...never...doood is beyond guile and reproach. Ask Bill Clinton what happens when you compare candidate Obamas lack of experience to Hillary Clinton.

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There are NONE so blind as those who by damn will not see....
 
There is no such thing as a "war of northern aggression." So that automatically makes your whole post's accuracy suspect.
 
I iwll say that The Obama has delivered on his promise of bringing hope - people all over are hoping for a job, hoping for a recovery, hoping for stability and security....
 
128 votes for Obama, and most of them were done by guests. The poll is worthless.
 
RosieS said:
Uh, hello? Richard "I'm not a crook" Nixon was a crook. The only President to resign, under duress even. The Constitutional crisis he caused was unprecedented. He could have single-handedly brought down the entire government, but luckily cooler heads prevailed.

Regards from Rosie
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Yeah, he was crooked, racist, subversive, petty, socially inept, and a paranoid weirdo who was a great embarrassment and did profound damage to the country. And so egotistical and deluded he thought he could manage a cover up of the Watergate break in.
 
I'm surprised that so many people have voted for Obama. I would agree that he is not good, but the worst in history? Maybe it is because America has an attention span of 2 months, or maybe people simply do not know anything about history. In my opinion, Hoover, Harding, Pierce, and Andrew Jackson were far worse than Obama.
 
Chappy said:
YouTube - Heck of a job Brownie

Kiss my ass.
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Ah Chappy...

Clinton's FEMA took 5 weeks to respond to Flood Floyd. Obama took over 100 days to deal with the Gulf oil spill. Bush's FEMA was on the ground in Mississippi and Alabama the day of Katrina, and in New Orleans three days after. If the left wasnt so absolutely ideologically mind****ed they would be able to recognize the reality of the situation...but...seriously...will that EVER happen? :lamo
 
Helvidius said:
I think an argument could be made states have the right to secede. Read South Carolina's Declaration of Secession. They make the argument that the states do have the right to secede.

Avalon Project - Confederate States of America - Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union

Your Texas v. White case is misleading. That was four year after the end of the civil war. There is absolutely no way the Supreme Court rules that a state has the right to secede.
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I've read SC's "Declaration". Didn't sway me in the least. And though Texas v. White was after the Civil War, it did not set law. All it did was CONFIRM law. When it was decided is irrelevant to what the decision was.
 
obvious Child said:
The part about exclusion due to ignorance and not being ready for the job. I don't think that should exclude him from being in the running.
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OK. I still believe that idiocy is more of a determining factor than ignorance.
 
ronpaulvoter said:
I mostly disagree. None of these are anywhere near the top for worst President. Coolidge, in particular, was one of our BEST. He did NOT contribute to the great depression; that was Hoover, and later, FDR. Our economy under Coolidge was extremeny prosperous. Hoover practiced greater fiscal responsibility than all but three or four other Presidents.
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Coolidge was HORRIBLE, and his refusal to take any action, economically, was what lead to the Great Depression. One cannot really blame Hoover... it started just a year into his Presidency. It'd be like blaming Bush II for 9/11. Coolidge's refusal to sign any Farm Relief Act was one of the major factors, with produce prices dropping dramatically, significantly hurting the agricultural industry, as was his refusal to allow nearly any kinds of federal regulations, his allowing for much economic risk-taking, without concern for the overall economy. Include in this the high tariffs, and Coolidge is an excellent example of how, in the long term, lazze-faire economics is a failure as an economic system. Coolidge was easily one of the 3 worst Presidents we ever had.

Hoover, though not as bad, certainly worsened the Depression by not only signing the Smoot-Hawley Act, but by ALSO refusing to act with any kinds of assistance.

The worst Presidents are:

1. FDR--imposed massive socialism onto America; we are still suffering from it. He also agitated the Japanese into bombing Pearl Harbor to get us into a war (Remember his "I hate war" lie?).
2. Lincoln--imposed the War of Northern Aggression, created 1st military draft and 1st attempt at federal income tax.
3. LBJ--Vietnam war, "Great Society," other massive socialist interventions.
4. Wilson--Federal income tax, massive spending and debt increases.
5. Obama--I don't even need to mention all the crap that he has done.
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Interesting. With the exception of Obama (too early to tell), I would consider those on your list some of our best Presidents.
 
Orion said:
128 votes for Obama, and most of them were done by guests. The poll is worthless.
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Hence why we should go towards only registered user votes. It's pretty pathetic how some people will resort to guest voting to skew a poll. But then again, age and maturity are two completely independent concepts.
 
Helvidius said:
The Great Depression was a result of the Federal Reserve shortening the money supply. Hoover can't control the Fed. Blame Wilson for signing it into law.
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Really? Do you think that raising taxes and cutting spend while starting a massive trade war had no impact?

What happens when 11% of your economy vanishes?
 
Bodhisattva said:
Obama is very tame compared to many past Presidents... it is just the Hate Bandwagon that can't see past their own hand. Hating the present is so much easier than studying and hating the past. Groovy too, you can bitch about it and it plays like a NBA game.
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Indeed. Look how many people voted for Bush and Obama.

Apparently the presidents who let 500,000 Americans die on their watch aren't as bad. Oh man. American public education is shameful.

For me, it comes down to Hoover or Buchanan. Harding was bad, but he didn't cause the great depression or fail to stop the civil war.
 
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Councilman said:
To be perfectly Frank it is no surprise that the leader of the "Trifecta of Doom," Obama is the hands down winner of the this poll he's been anti-American in most of his actions but always talks a good game.
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You do realize that 124 of the Obama votes are spammed votes... and are therefore pretty meaningless. Just some anti-Obama person stuffing the ballot box.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Hoover, though not as bad, certainly worsened the Depression by not only signing the Smoot-Hawley Act, but by ALSO refusing to act with any kinds of assistance.
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I dunno. Did Coolidge know that the outcomes of his decisions would be bad? Hoover knew and protested the Smoot-Hawley act as an awful idea that would just cause more problems. And signed it anyways. Pushing a policy you think may help but turns out bad is IMO, not as bad as enacting a policy you know is completely awful.

Think of a jury who convicts a person they think is a killer but isn't. Pretty awful.
Think of a jury who lets a murderer go free and they know he did the crime. That's worse.
 
obvious Child said:
I dunno. Did Coolidge know that the outcomes of his decisions would be bad? Hoover knew and protested the Smoot-Hawley act as an awful idea that would just cause more problems. And signed it anyways. Pushing a policy you think may help but turns out bad is IMO, not as bad as enacting a policy you know is completely awful.

Think of a jury who convicts a person they think is a killer but isn't. Pretty awful.
Think of a jury who lets a murderer go free and they know he did the crime. That's worse.
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Hoover inherited an untenable situation. Did he make it worse? To some extent, however, the Smoot-Hawley Act may not have been so terrible if he hadn't been set up by Coolidge.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Hoover inherited an untenable situation. Did he make it worse? To some extent
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I'd venture way more then some. High taxes, reduced spending and a trade war that ripped out 11% of the economy. His fault. And people like Ronpaul should hate him as well. Without Hoover's blunders, we probably wouldn't have the government we have today. Hoover's epic failure likely led to all kinds of entitlement.

however, the Smoot-Hawley Act may not have been so terrible if he hadn't been set up by Coolidge.
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Perhaps, but SHA was total **** all around. When 11~12% of the US economy at the time was either directly or indirectly depedent on foreign trade, starting a massive trade war in the middle of a recession is just totally retarded.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Coolidge was HORRIBLE, and his refusal to take any action, economically, was what lead to the Great Depression. One cannot really blame Hoover... it started just a year into his Presidency. It'd be like blaming Bush II for 9/11. Coolidge's refusal to sign any Farm Relief Act was one of the major factors, with produce prices dropping dramatically, significantly hurting the agricultural industry, as was his refusal to allow nearly any kinds of federal regulations, his allowing for much economic risk-taking, without concern for the overall economy. Include in this the high tariffs, and Coolidge is an excellent example of how, in the long term, lazze-faire economics is a failure as an economic system. Coolidge was easily one of the 3 worst Presidents we ever had.

Hoover, though not as bad, certainly worsened the Depression by not only signing the Smoot-Hawley Act, but by ALSO refusing to act with any kinds of assistance.



Interesting. With the exception of Obama (too early to tell), I would consider those on your list some of our best Presidents.
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Other than Lincoln, I disagree with you. FDR was a good wartime president, but his social policies were shortsighted and a massive departure from Americanism. Wilson's policies forced us into WWI and almost singlehandedly caused WWII. LBJ ignored the Vietnam war and focused on social policies that had little lasting affect.
 
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