View Poll Results: Worst American President

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  • Barack Obama

    141 62.11%
  • George W. Bush

    30 13.22%
  • Franklin Pierce

    3 1.32%
  • Herbert Hoover

    6 2.64%
  • Warren G. Harding

    6 2.64%
  • FDR

    8 3.52%
  • James Buchanan

    9 3.96%
  • Ulysses S. Grant

    2 0.88%
  • Other

    22 9.69%
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Why isn't Ford on the list?
    Because he was totally forgettable, and didn't really do much that was good OR bad in the grand scheme of things. How is he the worst?
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The people that chose GWB are amusing.... because there's not one thing that was 'bad' about GWB that The Obama isn't worse.
    The people who chose EITHER are amusing. To assess one's Presidency, one generally needs a decade afterwards to determine long term impact and some distance from the time.
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I don't know enough to make a decision.

    Given my limited knowledge of US presidential history, and taking into account my being too young to notice until the late Bush 41 years, I don't have all that much to go on.
    Here is a link for a pretty good series with regards to the Presidents. It's not a comprehensive view of all the Presidents, but it does give a good look at them. If you want any details, you'll have to go to wikipedia. But all in all, it's a nice place to start.

    Amazon.com: The History Channel Presents The Presidents: Edward Herrmann: Movies & TV

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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    The complete lack of temporal vision in this thread disturbs me.

    125 votes for Obama. Really?

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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, the states did not have the right to seceed, therefore he had every right to keep the states united. Firstly, they illegally confiscated federal property. Secondly, read Texas v. White for reference.
    I think an argument could be made states have the right to secede. Read South Carolina's Declaration of Secession. They make the argument that the states do have the right to secede.

    Avalon Project - Confederate States of America - Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union

    Your Texas v. White case is misleading. That was four year after the end of the civil war. There is absolutely no way the Supreme Court rules that a state has the right to secede.
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    The complete lack of temporal vision in this thread disturbs me.

    125 votes for Obama. Really?
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Herbert Hoover because he sat back and let the depression happen.
    For more recent history George Dubya gets a dishonorable mention.

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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    As a pretty solid Republican, Obama is not the worst president. Pierce is the worst; he is a cause of the Civil War. No one on this list has that prize. Learn some history people.

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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by hallam View Post
    As a pretty solid Republican, Obama is not the worst president. Pierce is the worst; he is a cause of the Civil War. No one on this list has that prize. Learn some history people.
    probably so but there are so many ways to measure this

    1) ineffectiveness as a leader

    2) corruption

    3) what he did to the country long term or short term

    FDR obviously was an effective leader/ however, if you believe in a limited government as envisioned by the founders he was probably the worst in what he did to the country. LBJ is in the same boat-an effective President in terms of getting his way but his long term legacy was harmful to the nation if you have a libertarian viewpoint

    Harding was ineffective and surrounded himself with corruption. Grant, a great man had poor choices in friends and his inner circle.
    Pierce was a joke and Buchanan made more mistakes than can be counted

    NIxon was corrupt but he was an effective president until Watergate and his decision to recognize red China was brilliant

    Hoover was ineffective and mishandled a crisis but he was fairly honest.



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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    It's a public poll - what did you expect?
    Obama cannot be judged yet. Nor can Bush II. How things turn out in Iraq will be a major determinative in how history judges W



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