"Never fear. Him is here" - Captain Chaos (Dom DeLuise), Cannonball Run
Mace Windu: Then our worst fears have been realized. We must move quickly if the Jedi Order is to survive.
The complete lack of temporal vision in this thread disturbs me.
125 votes for Obama. Really?
Avalon Project - Confederate States of America - Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union
Your Texas v. White case is misleading. That was four year after the end of the civil war. There is absolutely no way the Supreme Court rules that a state has the right to secede.
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Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Herbert Hoover because he sat back and let the depression happen.
For more recent history George Dubya gets a dishonorable mention.
As a pretty solid Republican, Obama is not the worst president. Pierce is the worst; he is a cause of the Civil War. No one on this list has that prize. Learn some history people.
1) ineffectiveness as a leader
3) what he did to the country long term or short term
FDR obviously was an effective leader/ however, if you believe in a limited government as envisioned by the founders he was probably the worst in what he did to the country. LBJ is in the same boat-an effective President in terms of getting his way but his long term legacy was harmful to the nation if you have a libertarian viewpoint
Harding was ineffective and surrounded himself with corruption. Grant, a great man had poor choices in friends and his inner circle.
Pierce was a joke and Buchanan made more mistakes than can be counted
NIxon was corrupt but he was an effective president until Watergate and his decision to recognize red China was brilliant
Hoover was ineffective and mishandled a crisis but he was fairly honest.