View Poll Results: Worst American President

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  • Barack Obama

    141 62.11%
  • George W. Bush

    30 13.22%
  • Franklin Pierce

    3 1.32%
  • Herbert Hoover

    6 2.64%
  • Warren G. Harding

    6 2.64%
  • FDR

    8 3.52%
  • James Buchanan

    9 3.96%
  • Ulysses S. Grant

    2 0.88%
  • Other

    22 9.69%
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Can't they make the polls members only?

    Or, since the subject has been broached by a moderator or administrator that 'the majority' of votes were bogus, can't they simply delete the bogus votes or further expand on their statement by stating that X number of votes in each category are legitimate... listing each category and the number of real votes? That's about the only way to make the poll legitimate again.
    I usually post that if requested. This only occurs in the "Polls" sub-forum. We DO want guests to vote... legitimate guests. It may encourage them to sign up.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    And if you do what I do, and ignore anyone who answered the last two presidents (or call them an idiot, whichever), then the poll looks really different.
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    again you have been seduced by the socialist side of the force, you have bought into the lie that dem welfare programs were designed to actually help people rather than to empower the politicians who created the programs. Uber rich want the tax cuts to expire in order to gain votes from people who feel as you do because being in office makes more money for them than not being in office or not having their politicians in office
    The ultra rich don't want the tax cuts to expire. Where do you get that notion?
    Do you know how long Welfare has been in effect? There have been Republicans in office as well as Democrats - if what you are suggesting is true, the Democrats would always be in office.
    The Republicans in Congress are also ones that don't want the tax cuts to expire - so your suggestion is that they are willing to give up votes in order to help the rich, which in turn helps the poor?

    And so the myth of republicans as the party of the budget-conscious suffers yet another crushing blow. Their true platform is clearly to extend tax cuts to the wealthy people who have given them money, as the economic “theory” behind tax cuts for the rich as a stimulus for the economy has been destroyed by facts so many times it’s not even funny. Tax cuts for the rich are effectively non-stimulatory, as they have repeatedly been shown to produce no changes in spending. The republicans are selling us deeper into debt with this one, and decades of economic data say that their only argument for doing so is a complete and utter falsehood.

    Senate Republicans firm on tax cuts for rich | Reuters
    you ever hear of Carnegie? he allowed the unions into his steel company and with that power unions spread to his competition who could not afford union wages-they went bankrupt, carnegie bought them up and then crushed the unions. simple people playing chess only see one move ahead. simple people though Fisher lost "the game of the century" when he sacrificed his queen. in reality, he sucked Byrne into a trap that the other master could not recover from. There is an old Asian adage of taking one step back to take two steps forward and that is what the uber wealthy dems do by conceding higher tax rates in order to buy the allegiance of people such as you.
    I don't know where you get your information, but it appears to be coming from some right-wing source that wants you to believe it is in your best interest, if you are middle class and below, when the facts show the opposite to be true.

    There is one way to get business and financial elites to reinvest in the economy - take the money from them. This policy option is, after all, the law, considering that the Bush administration explicitly set up their tax cuts to expire by the end of the 2000s. The Bush tax cuts will only be allowed to continue if the Democratic Party (or a split government following the midterm elections) agrees to extend them. We have a real chance over the next year to take a stand against corporate corruption and greed. Americans can demand that the Bush era tax cuts for the rich come to an end, or they can sit by and watch while Republicans (and conservative Democrats) push for their extension. The latter path will spell disaster for America's working class, while the rich will be left laughing all the way to the bank.
    t r u t h o u t | The Coming Tax War: How Letting the Bush Tax Cuts Expire Could End the Economic Crisis



    jacking taxes up on the rich allows dems to claim they want to stop the reckless increase in deficits when in reality it allows them to spend more and more and more to buy your votes. the deficit will not decrease becasue the dems have to keep spending in order to maintain power and the rich don't have unlimited funds-and many of them will go into serious tax avoidance ploys or leave the country.
    Do you have sources at all to back your statements, or you just repeating what you hear Limbaugh or Beck or some other wealthy Republican spew out? The deficit will decrease, because those tax cuts will not have to be paid for, if they expire. Your fabrication sounds like the "fear machine" of the Republican party has been doing a number on you.



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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I usually post that if requested. This only occurs in the "Polls" sub-forum. We DO want guests to vote... legitimate guests. It may encourage them to sign up.
    It is a known fact that there are trolls that sign up at the different forums, and they usually have several sock puppets also. You can tell because if you check the number of posts they make, they are usually very low or none. In the case of this poll, not everyone that votes is posting comments, so you don't know if they are legit or trolls.

    Another factor, some forums tend to lean right or left, and that is going to affect the outcome of any poll.

    What you are getting is the opinion of this forum, which may be heavily tilted to one side - Obama is not the worst president, and everyone knows it, but it makes those that oppose him to feel good to see a fictitious poll show that.



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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Just from my memory...
    LBJ lied to us about Gulf of Tonkin incident...got lots of people killed.
    Nixon lied about bombing Cambodia...got lots of people killed.
    Reagan lied about Latin America, got lots of people killed.
    Both Bush's lied about their respective wars, got lots of people killed.
    Even Clinton lied about the reasons for his wars.

    See a pattern here?
    a better poll would be about GOOD presidents, it would certainly be a smaller list to choose from..
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Just from my memory...
    LBJ lied to us about Gulf of Tonkin incident...got lots of people killed.
    Nixon lied about bombing Cambodia...got lots of people killed.
    Reagan lied about Latin America, got lots of people killed.
    Both Bush's lied about their respective wars, got lots of people killed.
    Even Clinton lied about the reasons for his wars.

    See a pattern here?
    a better poll would be about GOOD presidents, it would certainly be a smaller list to choose from..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Clearly the answer for best is U.S. President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho. Either that or President Bartlet. *wank
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    FDR's evil permeates American society-and more importantly-American Jurisprudence-to this day. No new deal and no lapdog judges, and we wouldn't have a huge bureaucracy and a massive debt
    FDR, the liberal's liberal, was a socialist.
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    The ultra rich don't want the tax cuts to expire. Where do you get that notion?
    Do you know how long Welfare has been in effect? There have been Republicans in office as well as Democrats - if what you are suggesting is true, the Democrats would always be in office.
    The Republicans in Congress are also ones that don't want the tax cuts to expire - so your suggestion is that they are willing to give up votes in order to help the rich, which in turn helps the poor?

    And so the myth of republicans as the party of the budget-conscious suffers yet another crushing blow. Their true platform is clearly to extend tax cuts to the wealthy people who have given them money, as the economic “theory” behind tax cuts for the rich as a stimulus for the economy has been destroyed by facts so many times it’s not even funny. Tax cuts for the rich are effectively non-stimulatory, as they have repeatedly been shown to produce no changes in spending. The republicans are selling us deeper into debt with this one, and decades of economic data say that their only argument for doing so is a complete and utter falsehood.

    Senate Republicans firm on tax cuts for rich | Reuters

    I don't know where you get your information, but it appears to be coming from some right-wing source that wants you to believe it is in your best interest, if you are middle class and below, when the facts show the opposite to be true.

    There is one way to get business and financial elites to reinvest in the economy - take the money from them. This policy option is, after all, the law, considering that the Bush administration explicitly set up their tax cuts to expire by the end of the 2000s. The Bush tax cuts will only be allowed to continue if the Democratic Party (or a split government following the midterm elections) agrees to extend them. We have a real chance over the next year to take a stand against corporate corruption and greed. Americans can demand that the Bush era tax cuts for the rich come to an end, or they can sit by and watch while Republicans (and conservative Democrats) push for their extension. The latter path will spell disaster for America's working class, while the rich will be left laughing all the way to the bank.
    t r u t h o u t | The Coming Tax War: How Letting the Bush Tax Cuts Expire Could End the Economic Crisis




    Do you have sources at all to back your statements, or you just repeating what you hear Limbaugh or Beck or some other wealthy Republican spew out? The deficit will decrease, because those tax cuts will not have to be paid for, if they expire. Your fabrication sounds like the "fear machine" of the Republican party has been doing a number on you.
    do the left wingers assume that any time anyone disagrees with their welfare-socialist psychobabble that the person must have gone to Rush for talking points?? I was conservative long before anyone heard of the fat man from Cape Giradieu. Just because you might get your parrot speak from the Daily Kos or MOve On doesn't mean I need someone to tell me how to think.



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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I've read SC's "Declaration". Didn't sway me in the least. And though Texas v. White was after the Civil War, it did not set law. All it did was CONFIRM law. When it was decided is irrelevant to what the decision was.
    What law did it confirm? An actual citation of the law prohibiting secession is all that I need.

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