View Poll Results: Worst American President

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  • Barack Obama

    141 62.11%
  • George W. Bush

    30 13.22%
  • Franklin Pierce

    3 1.32%
  • Herbert Hoover

    6 2.64%
  • Warren G. Harding

    6 2.64%
  • FDR

    8 3.52%
  • James Buchanan

    9 3.96%
  • Ulysses S. Grant

    2 0.88%
  • Other

    22 9.69%
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    CC-you haven't seen that hoax nonsense before. "The Lovenstein Institute" was the supposed source of that. Snopes and other sites have destroyed that garbage. posting it as a credible link should permanently brand Mertex as someone who is either gullible or doesn't think anyone else here has a brain
    Don't be inane! The article itself tells you it was intended to be a joke. All you have to do is read all the way to the end. It was suppose to incite some anger, but I guess my attempt at humor is lost on Bush idolizers.



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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Of course it's a joke, the article itself tells you it's a joke - I posted the link, it was supposed to create anger, that Bush was listed with such a low IQ.

    But, even though his real IQ was 125, his grades at Yale weren't all that swift. He did not graduate with honors. That George H.W. Bush was a member of Phi Betta Kapa has nothing to do with GW.
    Obama didn't graduate with honors either yet he got into harvard law even though that meant he was below a 3.3 and at that time the 25th percentile at harvard law (meaning 75 percent of the successful applicants were above the 25th percentile GPA) was around a 3.7.

    Bush's grades at yale were slightly better than Kerry's and his other opponent. Al Gore-had a bunch of Ds at harvard

    If academic prowess was your main criteria Bush was far better than Gore (who failed to complete two graduate programs while Bush got an MBA at the finest B school in the world) or Kerry who not only had slightly lower grades at Yale but went to the third best law school in Boston



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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Don't be inane! The article itself tells you it was intended to be a joke. All you have to do is read all the way to the end. It was suppose to incite some anger, but I guess my attempt at humor is lost on Bush idolizers.

    a decent attempt at a save but the fact remains that BDS victims have been citing that Lovenstein nonsense as authority for years and then when they get pwned on it they start claiming it was a joke etc.

    you posted it clearly as something you believed



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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Yes. Otherwise his base would have been incredibly small, don't you think? At the very least, you cater towards their message and get them hooked, or else you lose. The ultra wealthy cannot win you elections.
    It doesn't matter that the number of ultra wealthy is small, they are the ones that pay for all the advertisement and propaganda that create the false illusion that the wealth will trickle down.



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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Its actually the dems who help the ultra wealthy. Estate and income taxes kill off those who would reach their level. If you think rich dems care for the poor you are sorely mistaken. Rich liberals need lots of poor to vote for them and to justify the socialist nonsense that actually helps the uber wealthy

    Prove it Turtledove.


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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    His voting base was still significantly the average American. Your desire to use money (something that is universal in American politics) does little to negate the fact that his core constituency were average white Americans and a significant segment of hispanic voters. These are not pinstriped Americans, they are you and me.
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    It doesn't matter that the number of ultra wealthy is small, they are the ones that pay for all the advertisement and propaganda that create the false illusion that the wealth will trickle down.
    false illusions--that rich dems want the poor to escape poverty

    false ilusions-you can tax your way to prosperity

    false illusions-taxing the rich more and more will make the poor more productive and less dependent on the government

    false illusions-the people who constantly bash the rich are not envious or spiteful, they are merely looking out for the good of the nation.



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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post

    Prove it Turtledove.

    1) the name is Turtledude-I got points for altering another posters name

    2) This is coming from some guy who claimed that SSI payments come from SS taxes



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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    a decent attempt at a save but the fact remains that BDS victims have been citing that Lovenstein nonsense as authority for years and then when they get pwned on it they start claiming it was a joke etc.
    Well, I wouldn't have given you the link if I had been trying to hide the fact that it is a joke, a funny one at that! Didn't you notice that all the Republicans had lower IQ's - aimed at inciting at least a little indignation?

    you posted it clearly as something you believed
    Oh sure, an IQ based solely on assessments/opinions by others - how believable is that? One would have to have a very low IQ to think that someone's IQ can be determined by anything other than actual testing.

    What I believe is that Bush didn't have a sterling academic record like Obama - and the fact that some on this thread were trying to insinuate that.



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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Obama didn't graduate with honors either yet he got into harvard law even though that meant he was below a 3.3 and at that time the 25th percentile at harvard law (meaning 75 percent of the successful applicants were above the 25th percentile GPA) was around a 3.7.
    Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard. That was the one that counts.

    Bush's grades at yale were slightly better than Kerry's and his other opponent. Al Gore-had a bunch of Ds at harvard
    Actually Gore had a little edge on Bush on the SAT scores, but neither was exceptional.
    Confidential college transcripts and test scores obtained by the Washington Post reveal that neither presidential candidate, George W. Bush nor Al Gore, were shining students during their college days at Yale and Harvard, respectively. Although each earned respectable scores on the SAT college admissions test (a total of 1355 of 1600 for Gore and 1206 for Bush), neither did that well in their college courses. Both earned a mix of B and C grades. Gore's lowest grade of D came in a natural sciences course, while his top grades were an A in French and English, an A in Visual and Environmental Studies, and an A- in Social Relations. Bush's lowest marks were a 70 (of 100) in Sociology and a 71 in Economics, while his highest scores were High Passes in History and Japanese.
    Bush/Gore Grades and SAT Scores

    If academic prowess was your main criteria Bush was far better than Gore (who failed to complete two graduate programs while Bush got an MBA at the finest B school in the world) or Kerry who not only had slightly lower grades at Yale but went to the third best law school in Boston
    Bush wasn't good in Economics, something that he got to prove to us.



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