View Poll Results: Worst American President

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  • Barack Obama

    141 62.11%
  • George W. Bush

    30 13.22%
  • Franklin Pierce

    3 1.32%
  • Herbert Hoover

    6 2.64%
  • Warren G. Harding

    6 2.64%
  • FDR

    8 3.52%
  • James Buchanan

    9 3.96%
  • Ulysses S. Grant

    2 0.88%
  • Other

    22 9.69%
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    For all intents and purposes it is a war. People are shooting at each other, and dying. Technically the wars ended, but this is purely a semantics game that doesn't really address the argument.
    So please...tell me who we are fighting...and how we win that war?

    The fact is we are fighting terrorists...insurgents. They dont have a homeland. The Taliban is only part of the problem...Al Qaida is also a player and they exist throughout the east...shall we engage them as well? In the Phillipines? In Indonesia?

    'War' isnt just a word. Its a pretty clear cut understood conflict between two countries.

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    Re: Worst American Presidents

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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    I still can't believe that, with the intelligent people on this board, people are so blinded by their partisan hackery, that ANYONE would suggest that either Bush II or Obama would be the worst. Anyone who has claimed that either should win is demonstrating that their partisan hatred overrides their ability to look at history and understand that you cannot define a Presidency without at least 10 years of perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    I honestly don't know if I can decide on the worst president, I can however come up with a top 5.

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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Wow, really shows the demographic makeup of those who voted. I'm not just talking about political leanings but a lack of historical knowledge/perspective.

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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I still can't believe that, with the intelligent people on this board, people are so blinded by their partisan hackery, that ANYONE would suggest that either Bush II or Obama would be the worst. Anyone who has claimed that either should win is demonstrating that their partisan hatred overrides their ability to look at history and understand that you cannot define a Presidency without at least 10 years of perspective.
    Well, more like 20 years, and that is a beginning of research. Most documents do not start pouring in until 20 years or so, and then the rate slowly increases thereafter. Then, we have to consider time passed between events, like you said, to develop perspective. Sometimes 10 years is far too current. Sometimes our actions or reflections develop another swing decades after initial involvement (Vietnamese reforms to its communist experiment).
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I still can't believe that, with the intelligent people on this board, people are so blinded by their partisan hackery, that ANYONE would suggest that either Bush II or Obama would be the worst. Anyone who has claimed that either should win is demonstrating that their partisan hatred overrides their ability to look at history and understand that you cannot define a Presidency without at least 10 years of perspective.
    Personally, I'm wondering why those two presidents are even a poll option.
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Personally, I'm wondering why those two presidents are even a poll option.
    To make people who are current events junkies feel like they can answer the question with confidence.
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    History is a teacher. We learn from our past. I'm a current events junkie but without context, the present can be meaningless.

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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    So please...tell me who we are fighting
    Islamic extremists

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    ...and how we win that war?
    I don't know if I can answer that, but wars don't have to winnable.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The fact is we are fighting terrorists...insurgents. They dont have a homeland. The Taliban is only part of the problem...Al Qaida is also a player and they exist throughout the east...shall we engage them as well? In the Phillipines? In Indonesia?

    'War' isnt just a word. Its a pretty clear cut understood conflict between two countries.
    War | Define War at Dictionary.com

    war1    
    [wawr] Show IPA
    noun, verb, warred, war·ring, adjective
    –noun
    1.
    a conflict carried on by force of arms, as between nations or between parties within a nation; warfare, as by land, sea, or air.
    2.
    a state or period of armed hostility or active military operations: The two nations were at war with each other.
    3.
    a contest carried on by force of arms, as in a series of battles or campaigns: the War of 1812.
    4.
    active hostility or contention; conflict; contest: a war of words.
    5.
    aggressive business conflict, as through severe price cutting in the same industry or any other means of undermining competitors: a fare war among airlines; a trade war between nations.
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    a struggle: a war for men's minds; a war against poverty.
    7.
    armed fighting, as a science, profession, activity, or art; methods or principles of waging armed conflict: War is the soldier's business.


    Wars are rarely that clear cut. Most of the conflicts over the past 20th Century have been internal conflicts. Again, why does this argument even matter, people are shooting, people are dying, and governments are still spending tens of billions of dollars per year. Even if it doesn'tThe argument in the post you responded to still stands.
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