View Poll Results: Worst American President

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  • Barack Obama

    141 62.11%
  • George W. Bush

    30 13.22%
  • Franklin Pierce

    3 1.32%
  • Herbert Hoover

    6 2.64%
  • Warren G. Harding

    6 2.64%
  • FDR

    8 3.52%
  • James Buchanan

    9 3.96%
  • Ulysses S. Grant

    2 0.88%
  • Other

    22 9.69%
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    How many presidents started wars they didn't finish? …
    Bush started two.
    Define "finish"...we still have troops in Germany, Japan, Korea, Bosnia...

    Kennedy...but then that wasnt REALLY his choice...Johnson...thats two...

    The 'war' against Afghanistan and Iraq were over in 2003. I know you are too busy dabbing at the drool to recognize that...but...true story. See...we are actually allied with the Iraqi and Afgahni government now. I now thats hard for you to accept, but its true. The 'war' wasnt the problem. Where Bush did a lousy job was after the war ended.

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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    -Andrew Johnson.

    Oops, that didn't happen either.
    You cant blame him. There are a LOT of people like him that lost their goddamned minds when Al Gore lost the election and have been just completely roiling in hatred and rage ever since. Its sad, really...a nation of hate filled gollums...I watched them having seizures after Gore lost. I watched them go into suicide watch mode following Kerry's loss...and sadly they just have never recovered. Try to sit down and have a conversation with them. They LITERALLY spit...they are that ****ing imbalanced.

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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Define "finish"...we still have troops in Germany, Japan, Korea, Bosnia...

    Kennedy...but then that wasnt REALLY his choice...Johnson...thats two...

    The 'war' against Afghanistan and Iraq were over in 2003. I know you are too busy dabbing at the drool to recognize that...but...true story. See...we are actually allied with the Iraqi and Afgahni government now. I now thats hard for you to accept, but its true. The 'war' wasnt the problem. Where Bush did a lousy job was after the war ended.
    Bush did a lousy job with the war too, in Iraq. Its lousy when you start an optional, unnecessary war with a country you've already beaten and which you have had pretty much under your thumb ever since.


    *Oh, and we aren't so tight with Afghanistan. I don't see much promise in an allied country with a mental bedbug for a leader.
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    Bush did a lousy job with the war too, in Iraq. Its lousy when you start an optional, unnecessary war with a country you've already beaten and which you have had pretty much under your thumb ever since.


    *Oh, and we aren't so tight with Afghanistan. I don't see much promise in an allied country with a mental bedbug for a leader.
    The military did a superior job defeating both the Taliban in Afghanistan and Husseins military in Iraq. Swift, decisive, minimal casualties. They failed in the follow up. As I have said a few dozen times.

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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Define "finish"...we still have troops in Germany, Japan, Korea, Bosnia...

    Kennedy...but then that wasnt REALLY his choice...Johnson...thats two...

    The 'war' against Afghanistan and Iraq were over in 2003. I know you are too busy dabbing at the drool to recognize that...but...true story. See...we are actually allied with the Iraqi and Afgahni government now. I now thats hard for you to accept, but its true. The 'war' wasnt the problem. Where Bush did a lousy job was after the war ended.
    There is still significant conflict ongoing. Saying that we finished either war is nothing more than playing with semantics.
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Wow. A lot of people have no sense of perspective. Buchanan failed to contain or prevent the freaking Civil War. He barely did anything when secession started. He was also pro-slavery. A large deficit looks benign compared to that crap.

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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The military did a superior job defeating both the Taliban in Afghanistan and Husseins military in Iraq. Swift, decisive, minimal casualties. They failed in the follow up. As I have said a few dozen times.
    What I was saying is the war itself was not even necessary, not in Iraq. The military did its job well, but they should not have been sent to do it in the first place.
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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    There is still significant conflict ongoing. Saying that we finished either war is nothing more than playing with semantics.
    Hogwash. The 'war' was clearly defined, as was our enemy. The PROBLEM is once the war ended (and we became allied with both the Iraqi and Afghani military) we lost vision of the enemy and did a pisspoor job of prosecuting the peace. BTW>..that 'enemy' that we face now...how would you suggest we fight them? Full on war? And what do you see as 'victory'?

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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    What I was saying is the war itself was not even necessary, not in Iraq. The military did its job well, but they should not have been sent to do it in the first place.
    Thats a completely different discussion and a position I can even respect. Not the subject at hand...but sure...we can discuss it. The fact remains had we NOT attacked Iraq, Hussein would still be in power and we would be on...what...resolution 46 trying to force compliance with regard to his posession of WMDs? Hate George Bush if you will, but George Bush acted on the accumulated intel of ours and every other intel agency in the world. Every democrat said the same thing Bush said. We only know what we know because he acted.

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    Re: Worst American Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Hogwash. The 'war' was clearly defined, as was our enemy. The PROBLEM is once the war ended (and we became allied with both the Iraqi and Afghani military) we lost vision of the enemy and did a pisspoor job of prosecuting the peace. BTW>..that 'enemy' that we face now...how would you suggest we fight them? Full on war? And what do you see as 'victory'?
    For all intents and purposes it is a war. People are shooting at each other, and dying. Technically the wars ended, but this is purely a semantics game that doesn't really address the argument.
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