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Are White People an oppressed minority?

Are White People an oppressed minority in America?


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More examples of accusing people of racism for no reason.

Don't need to accuse the Met of anything.
They know and have admitted they have alot of problems when it comes to racism.
 
Actually it's not.
The Government's own date shows that Black and Asians are four times more likely to be stop and searched and a report done by the Metropolitan Police Authority argued the source of this is because of racial bias.
Argued this is because of racial bias. They speculated.


The police are institutionally racist.
Speculation again. No proof.
 
Both bolded items of discussion above are a cultural problem that is not the responsibility of anyone but those individuals involved.
Single Parent? Cultural Problem. Nobody rolled the dice and made her a single parent, She got pregnant and had a kid with a guy who wasn't interested in her and now she is in a bad spot. Its called birth control.

Low income, Should have stayed in school, payed attention in school and worked hard to go to college and get a better job.

The opportunity is there, and many suceed. They aren't the "lucky" ones, they are the ambitious ones who made it despite a bad social setting.

You can't say, "You can't blame someone living in the low-income ghetto for getting involved in gangs or dropping out." But in reality, they are the ones who made that decision.

Its time we start holding people accountable for their actions, and as parents raising then to make the right decisions instead of blaming society and WHITEY.

Single out two phrases and make a paragraph concerning that ... awesome.
Ignore the general point of my post. Even better.

I'm well aware that individual responsibility comes into play here
 
Don't need to accuse the Met of anything.
They know and have admitted they have alot of problems when it comes to racism.

Because they claim to acknowledge the problem does not mean these specific incidents where you were stopped are automatically racism.

More speculation and false accusations of racism.
 
Single out two phrases and make a paragraph concerning that ... awesome.
Ignore the general point of my post. Even better.

I'm well aware that individual responsibility comes into play here

Individual responsibility plays a huge role, but do does opportunity and the culture one is born into. It is useless to pick out any single factor from the mix and say "that is the reason"
 
Single out two phrases and make a paragraph concerning that ... awesome.
Ignore the general point of my post. Even better.

I'm well aware that individual responsibility comes into play here

Comes into play?

Individual responsibility and lack of accountability is the REASON for all your statistics.

That is MY speculation. You can claim others are racist all you want, I'll claim the individuals involved are a part of a breakdown into a criminal culture.

Minorities have a lack of respect for Police that they aquire through cultural means.
 
Argued this is because of racial bias. They speculated.


Speculation again. No proof.

No.
It's just not good enough for you the evidence
Clearly it happened because Black/Asians asked to get stop and searched 70% more. That means nothing

The police are still instititionally racist, not much has changed except it's just more undercover.

Police 'still institutionally racist' - Telegraph

But to be very fair to the police, it has changed from the time of Stephen Lawrence. I mean, now they actually investigate when someone dies rather than be 100% incompetent. Always a thumbs up and who says I don't give kudos
 
Poor people in general have a higher rate of being stopped by police on what some call "routine traffic stops".

Want to know why?

Its poor people who have a harder time maintaining registration tags (expiration), mandatory inspections, insurance, and maintaining the required equipment for the vehicle once said equipment breaks down (lights, etc).
 
Comes into play?

Individual responsibility and lack of accountability is the REASON for all your statistics.

That is MY speculation. You can claim others are racist all you want, I'll claim the individuals involved are a part of a breakdown into a criminal culture.

Minorities have a lack of respect for Police that they aquire through cultural means.

I would argue a lack of respect for any authority, not just police.
 
Minorities have a lack of respect for Police that they aquire through cultural means.

Yeah because minorities woke up one day and thought 'wow, let's just hate police officers from now for no reason whatsoever' :roll:
 
Minorities have a lack of respect for Police that they aquire through cultural means.

Minorities who have a lack of respect for police often acquire it through cultural means.

Your sentence indicates racial bias. ;-)

Love ya', Caine. Couldn't help myself.
 
No.
It's just not good enough for you the evidence
Clearly it happened because Black/Asians asked to get stop and searched 70% more. That means nothing

The police are still instititionally racist, not much has changed except it's just more undercover.

Police 'still institutionally racist' - Telegraph

But to be very fair to the police, it has changed from the time of Stephen Lawrence. I mean, now they actually investigate when someone dies rather than be 100% incompetent. Always a thumbs up and who says I don't give kudos

So you believe all news articles written with a bias?

LOL... Your article accuses these departments of racism because they fail to meet Minority Hiring quotas..

:ROFL CLASSSSIC!!!
 
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I would argue a lack of respect for any authority, not just police.

I give respect when it is due.
No doubt it is the same for any other individual.
 
So you believe all news articles written with a bias?

Actually I gave you links from BBC, Independent, Guardian.

Independent is highly respect.
Would you prefer daily mail?

This is not a 'one paper' thing. All papers say the same thing, even those scary right wing ones :p
 
.... the overuse of stop and search techniques against black and multi-ethnic groups.

And some police forces are still "dragging their feet" when it comes to recording and reporting racist crimes, it was claimed.


It raised concerns about the disproportionate number of black and Asian people stopped and searched in most force areas, the high proportion of black men recorded on the DNA database

Must have missed it.
No problem tho.
 
I give respect when it is due.
No doubt it is the same for any other individual.

you would be sadly, incorrect. the problem is that too many minorities are totally clueless as to when respect is due. they don't think that anyone but themselves are due respect
 
Here's my beliefs and experiences with this.
White people (great how I'm labeled as nothing more than a generic color) aren't oppressed in most instances, although I do think we get a raw deal in the blame department.
Often, the crap our ancestors went through is marginalized, which in many instances mimics the often cited Jim Crow laws.

In the end though, I think it's 80% culture you're raised in, which determines your likelihood of success and little has to do with race.
 
you would be sadly, incorrect. the problem is that too many minorities are totally clueless as to when respect is due. they don't think that anyone but themselves are due respect
:lamo

Source to support that?
 
.... the overuse of stop and search techniques against black and multi-ethnic groups.

And some police forces are still "dragging their feet" when it comes to recording and reporting racist crimes, it was claimed.


It raised concerns about the disproportionate number of black and Asian people stopped and searched in most force areas, the high proportion of black men recorded on the DNA database

Must have missed it.
No problem tho.

:2bigcry: big freaking whoop, if you are stopped and you are not guilty of anything then what real harm has been done?

as for the DNA database...if so many black men weren't criminals perhaps they wouldn't be so highly represented on the database. furthermore, unless you plan on being a criminal, what is the problem with your DNA being on file? It is standard practice in the military. My DNA has been on file since 2000 and I have somehow managed to not be wrongly convicted of a crime.
 
you would be sadly, incorrect. the problem is that too many minorities are totally clueless as to when respect is due. they don't think that anyone but themselves are due respect

Wow, that post had some cartman vibes to it.
 
:2bigcry: big freaking whoop, if you are stopped and you are not guilty of anything then what real harm has been done?

LOL

I don't give a **** if I have done nothing wrong
No police officer should have the right to search me unless they can prove I have done something wrong and especially not on the cause of race. Lazy policing right there.
It's my right to privacy and I don't want the goddamn State taking it away from me and giving it to the untrustworthy. The police should NEVER have the right to stop and search unless they have some evidence for that individual doing something illegal or prove beyond reasonable doubt they had a cause.
 
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Minorities who have a lack of respect for police often acquire it through cultural means.

Your sentence indicates racial bias. ;-)

Love ya', Caine. Couldn't help myself.

Thanks for fixing me, I didn't mean for it to be a blanket statement of ALL minorities.
 
I would argue a lack of respect for any authority, not just police.

Yeah, there are specific cultural aspects that are dominant in some minority cultures that show a lack of respect for authority.

Not all authorities.

Many U.S. Asians are among the most respectful folks Ive ever dealt with.
 
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