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Are White People an oppressed minority?

Are White People an oppressed minority in America?

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Hatuey said:
No. It's not. White-Hispanic =/= White. Your reading comprehension is lacking.
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sorry, you can't ignore something just because it doesn't fit your agenda. read the ****ing quote YOU provided

White Americans (non-Hispanic/Latino and Hispanic/Latino) are the racial majority, with an 80% share of the U.S. population
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apparently wiki-wiki thinks that white-hispanic = white
 
OscarB63 said:
thanks for backing up what I said. so I was a tad off. 8 out of 10 times you are white if you are an american and 13% of the pop is black instead of 12%...sue me.
The basic premise is still valid. Since blacks make up only 13% of the US population why should they make up more than 13% of the power positions?
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lets look to some other stuff

how many Jewish senators are there? Jews make up 2% of the population but they sure have more than 2% of the senators. Protestants make up a majority of lawyers in the USA but there are no protestants on the supreme court. Catholics are way way overrepresented on the supremes as are Jews (6 and 3)

Asians at places Like Cornell Engineering are probably a majority

is this due to oppression? Nah I don't think so
 
TurtleDude said:
lets look to some other stuff

how many Jewish senators are there? Jews make up 2% of the population but they sure have more than 2% of the senators. Protestants make up a majority of lawyers in the USA but there are no protestants on the supreme court. Catholics are way way overrepresented on the supremes as are Jews (6 and 3)

Asians at places Like Cornell Engineering are probably a majority

is this due to oppression? Nah I don't think so
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yeah, tis odd that blacks are the only "oppressed" minority in this country.
 
Goldenboy219 said:
WTF do white people have to feel oppressed about?
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I think some of the good ole' white boys have been feeling really held down since Obama got all up in they White House;)

That and they pissed off over WWE being so PG these days:2razz:
 
Kali said:
I think some of the good ole' white boys have been feeling really held down since Obama got all up in they White House;)

That and they pissed off over WWE being so PG these days:2razz:
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Hey, it's called the White House for a reason! :mrgreen:
 
OscarB63 said:
yeah, tis odd that blacks are the only "oppressed" minority in this country.
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what is interesting is that in the last 40 years (since the civil rights act was passed and segregation was kaboshed by federal forces) the sons and daughters of those who escaped genocide and the children of those who fled communist extermination in Vietnam and Cambodia have turned out more Ivy League Phi Beta Kappas than our supposed only "oppressed group"

I suspect cultural values tend to matter more than "oppression"
 
TurtleDude said:
what is interesting is that in the last 40 years (since the civil rights act was passed and segregation was kaboshed by federal forces) the sons and daughters of those who escaped genocide and the children of those who fled communist extermination in Vietnam and Cambodia have turned out more Ivy League Phi Beta Kappas than our supposed only "oppressed group"

I suspect cultural values tend to matter more than "oppression"
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Actually, Viets and Cambodians tend to struggle much, much more than Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans in the U.S. And the Hmong populations have major problems with gangs, poverty, etc.
 
Whites?
Ever see an albino?
Deliverance....the poor sole without any health care, living in ignorance, but with freedom, if you call it that.
Blacks?
Ever see one?
Africa....
Oppressed?
I do not know...probably, its the darker side of humanity.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Actually, Viets and Cambodians tend to struggle much, much more than Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans in the U.S. And the Hmong populations have major problems with gangs, poverty, etc.
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probably true -my sister in law was first generation Chinese and her parents-educated professors fled the communists and have done very well. But I recall reading about two service academies having the children of "boat people" as valedictorians which is something no Black American had ever achieved to the best of the knowledge of the writer of the articles concerning the USMA and the USAF academy (IIRC)
 
OscarB63 said:
reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit. I have admitted to nothing. You, on the other hand, have repeatedly implied that I am a racist. so before you squeal "personal attack" take a good long look in the mirror.





now you are just talking gibberish. it really is quite simple. The black unemployment rate is 17%. why??? I assume it is due to some failing among blacks. you think I am incorrect. So, give me some proof that the black unemployment rate is higher due to some factor beyond their control.





yeah, which is why all these affirmative action programs are bull****. but it does give minorities OPPORTUNITY (which was what this about ). What they choose to make of that opportunity is up to them.
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You keep pointing out how many black peeps are out of work but what about there are more white people on welfare than them? Guess that means there are more lazy white folks than blacks. Do not hand me that crap about there are more white people is the reason:(
 
Kali said:
I think some of the good ole' white boys have been feeling really held down since Obama got all up in they White House;)

That and they pissed off over WWE being so PG these days:2razz:
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maybe some do but his election ought to put a serious kabosh on the petulant whining we hear from some "civil rights" Pimps like Jackson and Sharpeton who scream racism in order to maintain their power and extortion from gullible corporate entities etc
 
Kali said:
You keep pointing out how many black peeps are out of work but what about there are more white people on welfare than them? Guess that means there are more lazy white folks than blacks. Do not hand me that crap about there are more white people is the reason:(
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wrong analysis

the percentage of blacks on government assistance is far higher than the number of whites
I think right before the GOP congress forced clinton into welfare reform, the actual number of blacks had caught up to the number of whites in terms of those on assistance but I have no idea what the actual numbers are but the percentages still remain much higher for blacks
 
TurtleDude said:
probably true -my sister in law was first generation Chinese and her parents-educated professors fled the communists and have done very well. But I recall reading about two service academies having the children of "boat people" as valedictorians which is something no Black American had ever achieved to the best of the knowledge of the writer of the articles concerning the USMA and the USAF academy (IIRC)
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The first wave of immigrants from Vietnam, primarily from the upper classes, has done reasonably well. The second wave, including the boat people, tend to be more low income. Their status has improved, but it's a mistake to think of "Asians" as one large, homogeneous group. In general, Viets, Cambodians, Laotians, and Hmong have had difficulties assimilating in the U.S., but are doing bettter. Of course, every group has difficulties assimilating for a generation or two. The Chinese and Japanese experienced major hostility and racial mistreatment.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
The first wave of immigrants from Vietnam, primarily from the upper classes, has done reasonably well. The second wave, including the boat people, tend to be more low income. Their status has improved, but it's a mistake to think of "Asians" as one large, homogeneous group. In general, Viets, Cambodians, Laotians, and Hmong have had difficulties assimilating in the U.S., but are doing bettter. Of course, every group has difficulties assimilating for a generation or two. The Chinese and Japanese experienced major hostility and racial mistreatment.
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I fully agree-and even with that hostility and resentment and the bigotry they faced their rates of education are far higher than our "oppressed minority" and their rates of violent crime are far far lower.

I cannot remember the last time an Asian was indicted for murder in the four counties I follow closely--now I understand in some areas-like LA there are Asian gangs that cause lots of problems but there are plenty of Asians in Cincinnati, and I cannot recall an Asian murder convict (I am sure there are some, I just cannot recall a single one)
 
TurtleDude said:
I fully agree-and even with that hostility and resentment and the bigotry they faced their rates of education are far higher than our "oppressed minority" and their rates of violent crime are far far lower.

I cannot remember the last time an Asian was indicted for murder in the four counties I follow closely--now I understand in some areas-like LA there are Asian gangs that cause lots of problems but there are plenty of Asians in Cincinnati, and I cannot recall an Asian murder convict (I am sure there are some, I just cannot recall a single one)
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Piss poor reasoning. Asian murders are quite common in areas with large Asian populations. And, of course, Asian organized crime, like the Yakuza or Hop Sing, are quite violent. What area do you pay attention to? It isn't Chicago or San Francisco, or Houston or Orange county, I suspect.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Piss poor reasoning. Asian murders are quite common in areas with large Asian populations. And, of course, Asian organized crime, like the Yakuza or Hop Sing, are quite violent. What area do you pay attention to? It isn't Chicago or San Francisco, or Houston or Orange county, I suspect.
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I guess you didn't read what I really wrote-I noted in some areas Asians have gang issues etc
but being rather up on federal prison statistics as well as state prison trends Asians are underrepresented in the serious crime conviction categories and blacks are WAY overrepresented (54% of murder convicts in the USA are black-for a group that is about 12% of the population)

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TurtleDude said:
I cannot remember the last time an Asian was indicted for murder in the four counties I follow closely--now I understand in some areas-like LA there are Asian gangs that cause lots of problems but there are plenty of Asians in Cincinnati, and I cannot recall an Asian murder convict (I am sure there are some, I just cannot recall a single one)
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Organized crime in areas like Cincinnati tends to take place under the surface. Extortion, human trafficking, drug sales, etc. Also, your population of Asians is under 2%. That's not a large population.
 
Kali said:
there are more white people on welfare than them? Guess that means there are more lazy white folks than blacks. Do not hand me that crap about there are more white people is the reason:(
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you are "minimally" correct. 38.8% of people on welfare are white and 37.2% of people on welfare are black. So technically, there are more whites on welfare than blacks. However, there are 6 times more white people than blacks in this country so all other factors being equal, you should expect for there to be 6 times as many whites on welfare as blacks. So....why isn't this the case?

blacks make up 13% of the population but 37% of the people on welfare.

www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-welfareblack.htm
 
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TurtleDude said:
I guess you didn't read what I really wrote-I noted in some areas Asians have gang issues etc
but being rather up on federal prison statistics as well as state prison trends Asians are underrepresented in the serious crime conviction categories and blacks are WAY overrepresented (54% of murder convicts in the USA are black-for a group that is about 12% of the population)

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That's because "Asians" are treated as a large, homogenous group, and they aren't. A lot of Asian organized crime is also not reported to law enforcement. You want to draw this conclusion that Asians have suffered as much as blacks and yet, they're better. The problem is that this is not precisely true. And, the circumstances differ.
 
Gray_Fox_86 said:
To be fair they make exceptions so as to add to diversity. I was accepted to a university and i was not anywhere near the ACT/SAT level they normally ADMITTED to.
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Also toss in the fact that if you are born with a silver spoon? You probably can go to any uni. ya want with parents help and grades are not gonna make a crap when it comes down to it.

I will say that if a uni had to pick in reguards to race? If it came down to race in reguards to which rich kid got in? White spoiled brat would win over non-white rich brat.
 
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Kali said:
Also toss in the fact that if you are white and born with a silver spoon? You probably can go to any uni. ya want with parents help and grades are not gonna make a crap when it comes down to it.
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Same if you're black and born with the silver spoon, money matters more than race in America.
 
spud_meister said:
Same if you're black and born with the silver spoon, money matters more than race in America.
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True! I am gonna go edit my post cause money does talk.
 
Kali said:
Also toss in the fact that if you are born with a silver spoon? You probably can go to any uni. ya want with parents help and grades are not gonna make a crap when it comes down to it.

I will say that if a uni had to pick in reguards to race? If it came down to race in reguards to which rich kid got in? White spoiled brat would win over non-white rich brat.
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What is a silver spoon considered? Also using the word "brat" speaks volumes on you. Considering the kids I know spend most of their time studying instead of partying just so that they can get a B/C in the class. I do not believe you know what it is like when you take an exam and out of the four questions asked you only have enough time to answer three. And all what you can do is cross your fingers and hope that you passed. Do you? The kids are young but they have made many social sacrifices just so that they can pass their classes.
 
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