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    Re: Are White People an oppressed minority?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    we are constantly being blamed for other people's lack of success
    Another true example of something whites can complain about.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Are White People an oppressed minority?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I have got stopped and searched before on the basis of my race. Many Black and Asian youths have.
    Speculation.

    I have spoke about it before on the forums. The only criteria the police officer who stopped me explained was because to paraphrase, I matched the description (I was black) and I had a hoodie ... that is it.
    If you were in the area where a serious crime was committed and that was the description they recieved from the victims. You'd go bat**** crazy if the police didn't do their best work to try to find the person who commited a serious crime against you.

    But, instead of taking the officer's word for it, you'd rather speculate that he is a racist for no other reason than he is a cop.

    Thats Racist...
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Are White People an oppressed minority?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I wouldn't wish to trade my skin colour because it is part of my history and something of my culture even if I think white people have it easier.

    I don't see any benefit to being Black in US or indeed abroad. African Americans are the most disadvantaged race in US imo, both educational and financial wise. Many are likely to be born in a single parent household or a low income family. So whatever benefits he claims they are receiving, I do not see or agree with.
    And individuals of every race is capable of being racist and I'm sure there are many racists who are Black so his second point is moot.
    Both bolded items of discussion above are a cultural problem that is not the responsibility of anyone but those individuals involved.
    Single Parent? Cultural Problem. Nobody rolled the dice and made her a single parent, She got pregnant and had a kid with a guy who wasn't interested in her and now she is in a bad spot. Its called birth control.

    Low income, Should have stayed in school, payed attention in school and worked hard to go to college and get a better job.

    The opportunity is there, and many suceed. They aren't the "lucky" ones, they are the ambitious ones who made it despite a bad social setting.

    You can't say, "You can't blame someone living in the low-income ghetto for getting involved in gangs or dropping out." But in reality, they are the ones who made that decision.

    Its time we start holding people accountable for their actions, and as parents raising then to make the right decisions instead of blaming society and WHITEY.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Are White People an oppressed minority?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I believe that's what Caine was referring to.
    Not to mention the serious problems one faced when trying to get into Public Safety jobs in the late 80s and early 90s due to Affirmative Action.

    Its not so much of a problem now as it was back then. I don't think I've met a senior officer who started during that time who wasn't denied a job because the organization they applied to wasn't hiring anymore whites at the time.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Are White People an oppressed minority?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    And the highest chance of being arrested and eventually jailed.

    Oh, I didn't know that lol
    And a higher rate of crime
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Are White People an oppressed minority?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    That was just one example and when I spoke about it on the forum, I wasn't particularly bothered because even if they stopped me, it wasn't that traumatic in that instance but I have been stopped and searched over a dozen times in the last few years for no good reason for what I believe was no reason than my skin colour.
    Most Blacks in London/UK, especially Black/Asian youths are stopped and unfairly targeted because of their background and little else. Hell the Chief constable admitted previously that the Met Police is "institutionally racist"
    More examples of accusing people of racism for no reason.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Are White People an oppressed minority?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    He's complaining about affirmative action? Meh.
    Now that makes slightly more sense than being called racist by racists :/

    Theoretically minorities in US get a leg up.
    Realistically Whites as a whole in US generally are still better off and always will be, leg up or not by the State. Whites are always going to dominate the political elite, mixed race President or not.
    And that is because....

    There are more whites than blacks.....

    If you Have 20 Beans total, and 15 of them are brown, and the other 5 are green..... and you had to select 3....... You do the math...

    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Are White People an oppressed minority?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Speculation.
    Actually it's not.
    The Government's own date shows that Black and Asians are four times more likely to be stop and searched and a report done by the Metropolitan Police Authority argued the source of this is because of racial bias.
    In 2007 to 2008, there were more than 170,000 stop and searches conducted on black people, compared to just 25,000 had they been stopped at the same rate as white people.

    BBC NEWS | UK | England | London | Stop-and-search 'racism' must end

    That doesn't highlight **** does it. Oh no.
    No gap between 170,000 and 25,000

    Equalities watchdog rebukes police over disproportionate use of stop and search | Law | The Guardian

    Edit: My mistake.
    Black and Asians are seven times more likely to be stopped compared to Whites and it has increased by 70%
    70% rise in number of black and Asian people stopped and searched | Law | The Guardian

    I can locate for you more news sources on this topic and try and dig up the reports for you if that is not enough

    The police are institutionally racist.
    Not my words, oh no. The words of a report done on the police itself by a Independent committee
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    Re: Are White People an oppressed minority?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Both bolded items of discussion above are a cultural problem that is not the responsibility of anyone but those individuals involved.
    Single Parent? Cultural Problem. Nobody rolled the dice and made her a single parent, She got pregnant and had a kid with a guy who wasn't interested in her and now she is in a bad spot. Its called birth control.

    Low income, Should have stayed in school, payed attention in school and worked hard to go to college and get a better job.

    The opportunity is there, and many suceed. They aren't the "lucky" ones, they are the ambitious ones who made it despite a bad social setting.

    You can't say, "You can't blame someone living in the low-income ghetto for getting involved in gangs or dropping out." But in reality, they are the ones who made that decision.

    Its time we start holding people accountable for their actions, and as parents raising then to make the right decisions instead of blaming society and WHITEY.
    get out of my head.....you are stealing my thoughts. excellent post
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    Re: Are White People an oppressed minority?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Not to mention the serious problems one faced when trying to get into Public Safety jobs in the late 80s and early 90s due to Affirmative Action.

    Its not so much of a problem now as it was back then. I don't think I've met a senior officer who started during that time who wasn't denied a job because the organization they applied to wasn't hiring anymore whites at the time.
    I was denied a job with the FBI in the mid 90s because "they had a shortage of minority agents", even though I was head and shoulders above all the other candidates in my applicant group.
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