View Poll Results: Where do you stand on legal immigration?

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  • We should close our borders to skilled immigrants

    1 3.33%
  • We should reduce the amount of skilled immigration

    0 0%
  • We should maintain the amount of skilled immigration

    9 30.00%
  • We should increase the amount of skilled immigration

    15 50.00%
  • We should open our borders to skilled immigrants

    13 43.33%
  • We should close our borders to unskilled immigrants

    9 30.00%
  • We should reduce the amount of unskilled immigration

    9 30.00%
  • We should maintain the amount of unskilled immigration

    3 10.00%
  • We should increase the amount of unskilled immigration

    6 20.00%
  • We should open our borders to unskilled immigrants

    6 20.00%
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Thread: Legal immigration

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    Legal immigration

    The people who constantly complain about illegal immigration are always quick to claim that they are not xenophobic, and are only motivated by a deep concern for the law. Curiously, these people never seem to advocate for easier LEGAL immigration processes...so I thought I'd make a thread to find out where everyone stands on legal immigration. Do we have too much? Not enough?

    I think it's a travesty that after our universities educate foreign students, that we kick them out of the country unless they go through the onerous process of finding an employer who is willing to sponsor them for a work visa. This is completely ridiculous. Educated foreigners are not going to live off welfare; they are going to create value and add jobs to the economy. IMO, we should have almost completely open our borders for anyone with a bachelor's degree or higher, as long as there isn't any reason (e.g. crimes, communicable diseases) to keep them out.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    I am all in favor in making immigration much easier for people who have valuable skills or talent. Like that Cuban Player Chapman who plays for the Reds and set a record fastball (105 MPH) the other night. Or the Indian Gastro doctor who operated on a guy I knew who had bad Chron's disease. Or the Chinese Aircraft engine designer who works for GE and whose kids are in a sports group I coach.

    I full agree with you on this issue



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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The people who constantly rant about illegal immigration are always quick to claim that they are not xenophobic, and are only motivated by a deep concern for the law. Curiously, these people never seem to advocate for easier LEGAL immigration processes...so I thought I'd make a thread to find out where everyone stands on legal immigration. Do we have too much? Not enough?

    I think it's a travesty that after our universities educate foreign students, that we kick them out of the country unless they go through the onerous process of finding an employer who is willing to sponsor them for a work visa. This is completely ridiculous. Educated foreigners are not going to live off welfare; they are going to create value and add jobs to the economy. IMO, we should have almost completely open our borders for anyone with a bachelor's degree or higher, as long as there isn't any reason (e.g. crimes, communicable diseases) to keep them out.
    Regarding your poll question: are you talking about the limits on legal unskilled immigration, or all unskilled immigration? Obviously these are two radically different numbers.

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Regarding your poll question: are you talking about the limits on legal unskilled immigration, or all unskilled immigration? Obviously these are two radically different numbers.
    Legal unskilled immigration.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Keep the talent, kick the rest out, including the illegals.

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    Re: Legal immigration

    I know many who are opposed to amnesty (etc) for illegal aliens who also advocate for changing the legal processes to promote skilled labor and/or educated immigrants. The central issue is that the laws in place need to be enforced-- and for good reason. If one holds the position that our nation's immigration policy should be respected and enforced, it doesn't follow that that same person is opposed to legal changes being made to existing policy, but that that person is opposed to the existing policy being ignored or actively circumvented (I would argue, often, for purely political purposes).

    That being said, I have no problem with unskilled immigrants, as long as they follow established law both in entering our country and after.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Since I believe that the law should be applied equally across the board I see no reason that a person that is educated should have an easier time of it than someone who is not educated. Besides, don't you know the saying of "if you really want something then you have to work for it"?
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Since I believe that the law should be applied equally across the board I see no reason that a person that is educated should have an easier time of it than someone who is not educated. Besides, don't you know the saying of "if you really want something then you have to work for it"?
    I disagree-educated people are far more likely to help the nation than those without any skills.



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    Re: Legal immigration

    I think the whole body of immigration laws should be scrapped as it is totally ass backwards. It basically does everything to discourage skilled and educated people and (due to lack of enforcement) encourages unskilled people to come in in droves.

    Immigration laws as they stand now are so byzantine that they make tax law seem like child's play.

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    Re: Legal immigration

    As part of a comprehensive package of immigration reform, I support making legal immigration easier for unskilled workers. As with most things, I believe the carrot and stick approach works better than either the carrot or stick by itself.
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