View Poll Results: Where do you stand on legal immigration?

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  • We should close our borders to skilled immigrants

    1 3.33%
  • We should reduce the amount of skilled immigration

    0 0%
  • We should maintain the amount of skilled immigration

    9 30.00%
  • We should increase the amount of skilled immigration

    15 50.00%
  • We should open our borders to skilled immigrants

    13 43.33%
  • We should close our borders to unskilled immigrants

    9 30.00%
  • We should reduce the amount of unskilled immigration

    9 30.00%
  • We should maintain the amount of unskilled immigration

    3 10.00%
  • We should increase the amount of unskilled immigration

    6 20.00%
  • We should open our borders to unskilled immigrants

    6 20.00%
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    Re: Legal immigration

    I am a volunteer EMT. Its not uncommon to arrive on the scene of an auto accident where someone is not here legally. This causes several issues.

    1) They are a ghost, no insurance.. no money. .no record of who they are.. no recourse.
    2) They run away. My job is to make sure they are ok. A lot of times they run away hurt.
    3) They dont know how to drive. They cant read english or take the driver test.

    We can not afford to unregistered, unknown people in the country. Its not safe. I dont mind if they are registered and work/pay taxes but we have to know they are here.

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Kandahar has no problem with outsourcing and hiring illegals, so he will say or print anything that supports screwing the American worker.
    Non-responsive ad hominem.
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    When you make up lies of racism like a pro-illegal and open borders crowd then one has to wonder. Amazing how you are accusing me of making up **** when you are resorting to false accusations of racism.
    Ah right. You are justifying making **** up by saying I make **** up. Hilarious.

    You haven't given a non-race-based reason for country quotas. It's racism. Deal with it.

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Non-responsive ad hominem.Ah right. You are justifying making **** up by saying I make **** up. Hilarious.

    You haven't given a non-race-based reason for country quotas. It's racism. Deal with it.
    I haven't been paying attention to this discussion about country quotas, but....

    If it's an "X number of type Y (as in, skill level, no racial determinations) people can immigrate to the US per year from each and every country" quota, I don't see the issue.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I haven't been paying attention to this discussion about country quotas, but....

    If it's an "X number of type Y (as in, skill level, no racial determinations) people can immigrate to the US per year from each and every country" quota, I don't see the issue.
    If we are looking for the best and brightest, why do we have to limit it by country? It's entirely possible that some countries have more than others.

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Non-responsive ad hominem.Ah right. You are justifying making **** up by saying I make **** up. Hilarious.
    You are making up lies of racism and you have the nerve to accuse others of making up ****?


    You haven't given a non-race-based reason for country quotas.
    I already have.Post 35 and post 22. And I have never given a race based reason for anything.If I have then I am sure that you can quote the post.

    It's racism. Deal with it.
    How is it racism?
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    At the same time we need a national ID setup.
    We basically already have one. It's your Social Security Number. Every American has one and they're all different.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You are making up lies of racism and you have the nerve to accuse others of making up ****?




    I already have.Post 35 and post 22. And I have never given a race based reason for anything.If I have then I am sure that you can quote the post.



    How is it racism?
    It is rather funny. I've yet to see you post anything about any single race in this thread..and yet you're supposedly xenophobic and racist. I seriously don't think that he knows the meaning of either of those words.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You are making up lies of racism and you have the nerve to accuse others of making up ****?




    I already have.Post 35 and post 22. And I have never given a race based reason for anything.If I have then I am sure that you can quote the post.



    How is it racism?
    I've given your ridiculousness enough of my time. I'm not going to draw you a picture, since that seems to be what it would take to get through to you, assuming your coy little ripostes are manifestations of gross ignorance and not just everyday lying.

    I've pointed it out to you enough times that anyone who isn't blinded by slavish devotion to right-wing partisanship could grasp it.

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    If we are looking for the best and brightest, why do we have to limit it by country? It's entirely possible that some countries have more than others.
    Right, which would mean those with the most couldn't have all immigrate, and those with very few could have all immigrate.

    The ones with the most, such as the more high-tech and developed countries (the EU and area come to mind), might not even have enough want to immigrate to meet a quota.

    Whereas the ones with very few, like the conflict-torn African countries, could have all immigrate - a downside for the countries involved, as all their best and brightest are fleeing, but...

    If anything, such a quota system would seem to be biased/racist against those from “white” nations.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I've given your ridiculousness enough of my time. I'm not going to draw you a picture, since that seems to be what it would take to get through to you, assuming your coy little ripostes are manifestations of gross ignorance and not just everyday lying.

    I've pointed it out to you enough times that anyone who isn't blinded by slavish devotion to right-wing partisanship could grasp it.

    Dismissed.
    So instead of backing up your claims you are going to run away like a little bitch? If I posted a race based or racist reason for something then please post the quote.
    Last edited by jamesrage; 10-04-10 at 12:16 AM.
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