View Poll Results: Where do you stand on legal immigration?

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  • We should close our borders to skilled immigrants

    1 3.33%
  • We should reduce the amount of skilled immigration

    0 0%
  • We should maintain the amount of skilled immigration

    9 30.00%
  • We should increase the amount of skilled immigration

    15 50.00%
  • We should open our borders to skilled immigrants

    13 43.33%
  • We should close our borders to unskilled immigrants

    9 30.00%
  • We should reduce the amount of unskilled immigration

    9 30.00%
  • We should maintain the amount of unskilled immigration

    3 10.00%
  • We should increase the amount of unskilled immigration

    6 20.00%
  • We should open our borders to unskilled immigrants

    6 20.00%
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Thread: Legal immigration

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Umm...yeah ya did.



    Your whole post that I just quoted above is about nothing but your claim that people are being xenophobic and using hyperbole and ad hominems. No where in there did you show where any reasons given in this thread were invalid.

    And instead of saying that I "just jumped into the thread" I'd suggest that you look back a few pages. I've been commenting in this thread from almost the begining [sic]. Perhaps you are the one that should actually read the thread.
    I'm not going to argue with you about what I wrote, as you seem to be unable or unwilling to do anything but read what you want to read and ignore the refutations I have made. If you have anything substantive to add to the debate, please feel free to do so at any time.
    Last edited by Coronado; 10-01-10 at 06:44 PM.

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    So it's not about bringing in the best and brightest, it's about having enough white folks coming in to balance out all those brown and yellow folks. Oh, but that's not xenophobia!
    Why don't you stop the rhetoric and start acting like an adult? And no it's not xenophobia. I gave you the defination of xenophobia. If what you said in your post were true and he just wanted enough white folks coming in to balance the other races then that would either be discrimination or racism not xenophobia. But since what you said is an outright lie then it is neither one of those either.

    btw...thanks for proving that you have no idea what xenophobia really is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    If they are here working and paying into the system, how is that burdensome?
    Even those that work and pay into the system can still overburden the sytem. That includes everyone, not just immigrants. Or do you actually think that the only ones that are on welfare and get free lunches or gets the government to pay for medical expenses are just lazy bums that don't do crap for a living? At least with immigrants we can limit how much of a burden they may become, unlike natural born citizens.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    I voted for:
    • We should increase the amount of skilled immigration.
    • We should open our borders to skilled immigrants.
    • We should reduce the amount of unskilled immigration.


    My current understanding of the situation is that we have too many unskilled people in our country, both immigrants and those born here.

    Thus, more is a bad thing.

    Additionally, I am of the strong opinion that our current public school system is in need of a major overhaul, which hopefully can fix the issue of poorly educated non-immigrants.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I'm not going to argue with you about what I wrote, as you seem to be unable or unwilling to do anything but read what you want to read and ignore the refutations I have made. If you have anything substantive to add to the debate, please feel free to do so at any time.
    When you have something to say other than trying to put words into peoples mouths and hollering about xenophobia perhaps someone will have something more substantive to say.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    I voted that we should increase both skilled and unskilled immigration. Skilled workers can only fill a certain strata of society, and frankly most people in my generation are very choosy about the kind of work they do. People are less and less inclined to get their hands dirty. Might as well give low level jobs to people who aren't afraid to do them.
    Last edited by Orion; 10-01-10 at 07:14 PM.

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    I voted that we should increase both skilled and unskilled immigration. Skilled workers can only fill a certain strata of society, and frankly most people in my generation are very choosy about the kind of work they do. People are less and less inclined to get their hands dirty. Might as well give low level jobs to people who aren't afraid to do them.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Why don't you stop the rhetoric and start acting like an adult? And no it's not xenophobia. I gave you the defination [sic] of xenophobia. If what you said in your post were true and he just wanted enough white folks coming in to balance the other races then that would either be discrimination or racism not xenophobia. But since what you said is an outright lie then it is neither one of those either.

    btw...thanks for proving that you have no idea what xenophobia really is.



    Even those that work and pay into the system can still overburden the sytem. That includes everyone, not just immigrants. Or do you actually think that the only ones that are on welfare and get free lunches or gets the government to pay for medical expenses are just lazy bums that don't do crap for a living? At least with immigrants we can limit how much of a burden they may become, unlike natural born citizens.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    When you have something to say other than trying to put words into peoples mouths and hollering about xenophobia perhaps someone will have something more substantive to say.
    So basically you are going to ride my jock about your misinterpretation of what I've said, or you're going to build idiotic strawmen. Gotcha.

    You have nothing relevant to add. Dismissed.

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    So it's not about bringing in the best and brightest, it's about having enough white folks coming in to balance out all those brown and yellow folks.
    Do the other 195 countries out there mostly have "white folks" in them? No? so your accusations are baseless and false.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    So basically you are going to ride my jock about your misinterpretation of what I've said, or you're going to build idiotic strawmen. Gotcha.

    You have nothing relevant to add. Dismissed.
    I've misinterpreted nothing. Your post is there for all to see. And since you've yet to add anything constructive to this thread you're not even worth dismissing. Until you say something of value I will not be responding to you again in this thread.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Do the other 195 countries out there mostly have "white folks" in them? No? so your accusations are baseless and false.
    You still haven't explained why having too many educated people from one country is a bad thing.

    I'll wait while you think of a non-racist reason.

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