View Poll Results: Where do you stand on legal immigration?

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  • We should close our borders to skilled immigrants

    1 3.33%
  • We should reduce the amount of skilled immigration

    0 0%
  • We should maintain the amount of skilled immigration

    9 30.00%
  • We should increase the amount of skilled immigration

    15 50.00%
  • We should open our borders to skilled immigrants

    13 43.33%
  • We should close our borders to unskilled immigrants

    9 30.00%
  • We should reduce the amount of unskilled immigration

    9 30.00%
  • We should maintain the amount of unskilled immigration

    3 10.00%
  • We should increase the amount of unskilled immigration

    6 20.00%
  • We should open our borders to unskilled immigrants

    6 20.00%
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Thread: Legal immigration

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What do my comments have to do with xenophobia? Because I do not want to swing the doors on the border wide open I am somehow a xenophobe?
    Feel free to give a valid reason for individual country quotas at your convenience.

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    That argues for an overall quota, not a quota from specific countries.

    Once again, read the ****ing thread.
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    Jamesrage suggested a quota from each country. I said because the US doesn't have unlimited resources when you asked "why?". Since we are a country that doesn't discriminate against people of other countries (legally speaking of course) then the logical thing to do is to put a quota of allowed immigrants from each country. That would allow people from all over the world to come to this country instead of everyone that comes here being from ONE country.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Feel free to give a valid reason for individual country quotas at your convenience.
    You've been given valid reasons. You then started hollering "xenophobia" and "ad hominem".
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Jeeze

    Jamesrage suggested a quota from each country. I said because the US doesn't have unlimited resources when you asked "why?". Since we are a country that doesn't discriminate against people of other countries (legally speaking of course) then the logical thing to do is to put a quota of allowed immigrants from each country. That would allow people from all over the world to come to this country instead of everyone that comes here being from ONE country.
    So what happens in the event that the best and brightest from outside of our borders happens to be concentrated in some contries more than others?

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Feel free to give a valid reason for individual country quotas at your convenience.
    I already did in post #22 for why we do not swing the door wide open and let everyone in. Plus quotas ensure that citizens from all countries get an equal chance to come to America while at the same time the people from those countries are not burdening the tax paying population. The fact a particular country may borders ours does not entitle that country to have more of its citizens come here than any other country.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You've been given valid reasons. You then started hollering "xenophobia" and "ad hominem".
    I did not "holler" anything. I showed where those reasons were invalid.

    Had you read the thread before jumping in feet first you would have known this.

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I already did in post #22 for why we do not swing the door wide open and let everyone in.
    See my post 34.
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Plus quotas ensure that citizens from all countries get an equal chance to come to America while at the same time the people from those countries are not burdening the tax paying population.
    People that are immigrating here legally are no more a burden to the tax system than the average working American.
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The fact a particular country may borders ours does not entitle that country to have more of its citizens come here than any other country.
    I never mentioned anything along those lines.

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    See my post 34.
    I do not care if some countries may have more educated people than others.

    People that are immigrating here legally are no more a burden to the tax system than the average working American.
    Its one thing when its the locals that are a burden and its a completely different thing when you import a burden.
    I never mentioned anything along those lines.
    You mentioned quotas.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not care if some countries may have more educated people than others.
    So it's not about bringing in the best and brightest, it's about having enough white folks coming in to balance out all those brown and yellow folks. Oh, but that's not xenophobia!
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Its one thing when its the locals that are a burden and its a completely different thing when you import a burden.
    If they are here working and paying into the system, how is that burdensome?
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You mentioned quotas.
    I didn't mention adjacent countries.

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I did not "holler" anything. I showed where those reasons were invalid.

    Had you read the thread before jumping in feet first you would have known this.

    Jeeze
    Umm...yeah ya did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    As usual, the nativist xenophobia eventually breaks through the veil of specious arguments, leaving a path of hyperbole and ad hominem behind it. Happens every time.

    Just be honest and say you want to keep all the chinks and greasers out. It would save us both a lot of time.
    Your whole post that I just quoted above is about nothing but your claim that people are being xenophobic and using hyperbole and ad hominems. No where in there did you show where any reasons given in this thread were invalid.

    And instead of saying that I "just jumped into the thread" I'd suggest that you look back a few pages. I've been commenting in this thread from almost the begining. Perhaps you are the one that should actually read the thread.
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