View Poll Results: Where do you stand on legal immigration?

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  • We should close our borders to skilled immigrants

    1 3.33%
  • We should reduce the amount of skilled immigration

    0 0%
  • We should maintain the amount of skilled immigration

    9 30.00%
  • We should increase the amount of skilled immigration

    15 50.00%
  • We should open our borders to skilled immigrants

    13 43.33%
  • We should close our borders to unskilled immigrants

    9 30.00%
  • We should reduce the amount of unskilled immigration

    9 30.00%
  • We should maintain the amount of unskilled immigration

    3 10.00%
  • We should increase the amount of unskilled immigration

    6 20.00%
  • We should open our borders to unskilled immigrants

    6 20.00%
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Thread: Legal immigration

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Because we can not let in everybody and the same time we do want a diverse pool of people coming into this country not just mostly one group of people from a single country.
    Why not?
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    It is a answer. We do not have to let anyone into our country.If we have problem countries like illegal immigration problems or some thing else then we should cut that country off.




    I never said it was not a punishment. I only merely stated how you can look at it.
    So what is it if not punishment?

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Why not?
    Because we have public schools, welfare, foodstamps, and section 8 housing which would be a drain on those who pay taxes. We have scum in office who think new immigrants do not have to learn the language so they would be making multilingual forms, require tax payer funded employees to be multilingual which would also be an additional cost to those who pay taxes. There is is also diseases,viruses and other things to worry about if we just let in everybody.


    So what is it if not punishment?
    So then you were not really concerned about others being punished for the actions of others? You whining about others being punished for the actions of several million is just a ploy.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Because we have public schools, welfare, foodstamps, and section 8 housing which would be a drain on those who pay taxes. We have scum in office who think new immigrants do not have to learn the language so they would be making multilingual forms, require tax payer funded employees to be multilingual which would also be an additional cost to those who pay taxes. There is is also diseases,viruses and other things to worry about if we just let in everybody.




    So then you were not really concerned about others being punished for the actions of others? You whining about others being punished for the actions of several million is just a ploy.
    As usual, the nativist xenophobia eventually breaks through the veil of specious arguments, leaving a path of hyperbole and ad hominem behind it. Happens every time.

    Just be honest and say you want to keep all the chinks and greasers out. It would save us both a lot of time.

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Why is it that whenever someone talks against easy immigration or illegal aliens that someone is "xenophobic"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    As usual, the nativist xenophobia eventually breaks through the veil of specious arguments, leaving a path of hyperbole and ad hominem behind it. Happens every time.

    Just be honest and say you want to keep all the chinks and greasers out. It would save us both a lot of time.
    Do you even know what xenophobia is? If someone is for legal immigration and also wants it to be controlled (weather tightly controlled or not) that is NOT xenophobia.

    Mirriam-Webster Defination of xenophobia

    And where's the ad hominem?
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Why not?
    Besides what jamesrage said.....Because the US does not have unlimited resources.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Why is it that whenever someone talks against easy immigration or illegal aliens that someone is "xenophobic"?
    If the shoe fits ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Do you even know what xenophobia is?
    Yes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    If someone is for legal immigration and also wants it to be controlled (weather tightly controlled or not) that is NOT xenophobia.
    That's not what I was objecting to. Read the ****ing thread before you spout off. Thanks.

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Besides what jamesrage said.....Because the US does not have unlimited resources.
    That argues for an overall quota, not a quota from specific countries.

    Once again, read the ****ing thread.

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    If the shoe fits...
    The shoe doesn't fit when you're using the word incorrectly.

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    Yes.
    Apparently not since you are using the word incorrectly.

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    That's not what I was objecting to. Read the ****ing thread before you spout off. Thanks.
    I read it. Have been since the begining of the thread. I know what your objecting to and what I said still stands.
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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The shoe doesn't fit when you're using the word incorrectly.



    Apparently not since you are using the word incorrectly.
    Feel free to persist in your error.



    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I read it. Have been since the begining of the thread. I know what your objecting to and what I said still stands.
    What am I objecting to?

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    Re: Legal immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    As usual, the nativist xenophobia eventually breaks through the veil of specious arguments, leaving a path of hyperbole and ad hominem behind it. Happens every time.

    Just be honest and say you want to keep all the chinks and greasers out. It would save us both a lot of time.
    What do my comments have to do with xenophobia? Because I do not want to swing the doors on the border wide open I am somehow a xenophobe?


    Just be honest and say you want to keep all the chinks and greasers out. It would save us both a lot of time.
    What are chinks and greasers? Are those characters in movies depicting the 1950s like The Outsiders or Grease?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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