View Poll Results: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by Layla_Z View Post
    Your link is one authors opinion. They are trying to sell a book. Hardly a definitive comment on education.
    Huh? It's a compilation of research from several academic sources. And I don't see anything about a book...at least not as it relates to these sources. If your attitude is that it can't be trusted because the researchers might make money, the same could be said about ANY scholarly research (didn't you just cite a bunch of those yourself?)
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i think teacher salaries should be based on a few things:

    1. merit
    2. education
    3. years of service
    4. grades taught

    it's important for new and younger teachers to have older teachers as mentors. continuing education is paramount, and results, obviously, are primary.
    and subject taught. Grading papers is fairly easy in a math class, for english, you have to read all of the papers.
    PhsEd should not be paid near as much as core subjects.
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Critical thinking is the ability to question everything. You don't like it that I question the existence of public schools and the history of public schools bears out that it's sole purpose is to crank out drones. This is why you keep trying to shut me up about my position. You are unable to defeat the facts I presented, so the only thing left that you do is to block my freedoms of thought and expression. Do not look behind the curtain!
    How are we blocking you? by not agreeing with you? We think you are wrong, and I personally think you have brainwashed yourself...
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Most of the Scandinavians have an advantage over us....just learning to speak their language reasonably well, they have already developed their brains more than most of us...
    It's only Finland that is doing well. The other Scandinavian countries aren't doing well in international surveys at all and in general people are pretty stupid and uninformed. Although they think they are inteligent. They all got the same system as Finland (so it's not the system US should adopt), but the difference is the teachers.

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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    How are we blocking you? by not agreeing with you? We think you are wrong, and I personally think you have brainwashed yourself...
    You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.
    Declaring me wrong and proving it with facts are two different things. Sadly, you haven't been able to prove that I am wrong.

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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    and subject taught. Grading papers is fairly easy in a math class, for english, you have to read all of the papers.
    PhsEd should not be paid near as much as core subjects.
    The question is though, is it harder to teach Math or English?

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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    The question is though, is it harder to teach Math or English?
    My wife said once, if she had it to do over again, she would have taught math...
    From my experience, math is easier to learn. There is only one answer for each problem. Get into english grammar, and that isn't too bad, but literature boggles my brains. I seldom got out of a book what teacher said I should....
    My GED test scores were 88 to 92, except for literature, that was 58 IIRC, might have even been 48.
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    My wife said once, if she had it to do over again, she would have taught math...
    From my experience, math is easier to learn. There is only one answer for each problem. Get into english grammar, and that isn't too bad, but literature boggles my brains. I seldom got out of a book what teacher said I should....
    My GED test scores were 88 to 92, except for literature, that was 58 IIRC, might have even been 48.
    I was the same way, good at math and confused as hell by literature. But from a teachers perspective, it may be harder to teach math to those with difficulty thatn it is with literature. You only have a finite number of approaches to teach math and if the foundation is faulty and the logic is questionable, it can be hopeless. In literature you can pull in references to all manner of things and explain in a multitude of ways.

    I think it is easier to teach English literature to the bad students than it is to teach math to bad students. and that is where the focus should be...perhaps not.

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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Declaring me wrong and proving it with facts are two different things. Sadly, you haven't been able to prove that I am wrong.
    I think it might be more accurate to say he doesn't care enough to try - Sorry, UtahBill, if I’m putting words in your mouth.
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    My wife said once, if she had it to do over again, she would have taught math...
    From my experience, math is easier to learn. There is only one answer for each problem. Get into English grammar, and that isn't too bad, but literature boggles my brains. I seldom got out of a book what teacher said I should....
    My GED test scores were 88 to 92, except for literature, that was 58 IIRC, might have even been 48.
    See now, IMO, the teacher shouldn't have told you what to get out of the book, they should have asked you what you had gotten out of it - after reading it - and discussed yours and other student's takes on the whole thing.

    But meh.
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