View Poll Results: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    I pay property taxes so yes this means I have a stake. Let me guess I'm not allowed to have freedom of expression and thought and that I'm to be a good little drone that follows orders without any critical thinking.
    I am no expert in critical thinking, but I am far enough along to recognize those who think they are....
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    I pay property taxes so yes this means I have a stake. Let me guess I'm not allowed to have freedom of expression and thought and that I'm to be a good little drone that follows orders without any critical thinking.
    Wow, the attitude in your post reminds me of a 12 yearold me.

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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I am no expert in critical thinking, but I am far enough along to recognize those who think they are....
    Critical thinking is the ability to question everything. You don't like it that I question the existence of public schools and the history of public schools bears out that it's sole purpose is to crank out drones. This is why you keep trying to shut me up about my position. You are unable to defeat the facts I presented, so the only thing left that you do is to block my freedoms of thought and expression. Do not look behind the curtain!

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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Wow, the attitude in your post reminds me of a 12 yearold me.
    I noticed that you are silent when the other side told me to move because I didn't like it here. How mature of them.

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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Wow, the attitude in your post reminds me of a 12 yearold me.
    love your sig....seems that some people are willfully ignorant, which to me is the first stage of really stupid. And, sadly, it describes half of my siblings..
    They all live in east Texas, by choice!!!!
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    I noticed that you are silent when the other side told me to move because I didn't like it here. How mature of them.
    I was also silent while Utah Bill is trying to block your freedom of thought. How cruel of him!

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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I read all I could as a child, made a big difference. I even talked my parents into buying the World Book Encyclopedia, and I read most of it. Took me about 5 years, reading off and on...
    Kandahar's point that I highlighted...over which the school has control is important to consider, especially for those who think teaching in public schools is easy. The schools really don't have any control over the community, not even when we "indoctrinate" their kids....
    I read a tremendous amount too. I am only 42 years old - a youngster by your standards - but we also had an Encyclopedia (year 1053) at home. Most of it still applied. As an aside, I unfortunately don't read that much anymore, because of this internet phenomena called DebatePolitics. I am in the middle of 4 books and have a good one queued up from a recommendation by the GND I recall: A Conflict of Visions. How constrained and unconstrained outlooks conflict ideologically.

    I also highlighted Kandahar's point. While the content for "indoctrination", which is all education including home schooling, comes from the school, but the impetus for being educatable comes from the home and includes the desire as well as the habit of getting educated. One thing I recall fiercely is the debate and review of knowledge we would have at dinner. Only one time have I stumped my Dad's geography knowledge and that was the capital of Moldova. Jeez.

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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    In Finland the public education system employs Masters Degree level education for teachers... Guess who has the most effective education system in the world? Teachers level of education should be the primary determining factor on their pay.. of course they deserve raises just like anyone else in the job market.
    There are all manner of educated idiots. Teacher level means nada. My high school had a Master's Degree teacher for math, and he was ineffective. He would have been one of the first to get cut loose had I run the place as a private business.

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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I read a tremendous amount too. I am only 42 years old - a youngster by your standards - but we also had an Encyclopedia (year 1053) at home. Most of it still applied. As an aside, I unfortunately don't read that much anymore, because of this internet phenomena called DebatePolitics. I am in the middle of 4 books and have a good one queued up from a recommendation by the GND I recall: A Conflict of Visions. How constrained and unconstrained outlooks conflict ideologically.

    I also highlighted Kandahar's point. While the content for "indoctrination", which is all education including home schooling, comes from the school, but the impetus for being educatable comes from the home and includes the desire as well as the habit of getting educated. One thing I recall fiercely is the debate and review of knowledge we would have at dinner. Only one time have I stumped my Dad's geography knowledge and that was the capital of Moldova. Jeez.
    My daughter told me once that I am a master of useless information....
    BTW, 1053? That has to have some serious collectors value...
    I have Parkinson's, and the spell check alert is always going off. I rarely get a whole line done without an error. the 9 and 0 are often switched, and I put in a LOT of extra L's. The L finger has a mind of its own..
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I was also silent while Utah Bill is trying to block your freedom of thought. How cruel of him!
    I try to use my powers righteously, but sometimes I just feel like sinning...
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