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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    One very glaring error in your philosophy....actually 2.....
    We don't RECEIVE an education, we take it. When teachers teach 30 kids in one classroom, and some do well, and some do not, it is NOT the teachers fault. He/She puts the information out, but SOME kids are listening, and others or not....
    And taxes? Taxes have been low for a decade or so, at least, thanks to Bush. Even letting the Bush tax cuts expire, taxes will still be lower than when I went to public schools.
    You're right in that they don't receive an education. They receive indoctrination of the state approved curriculum. I guess that you never considered that there are more taxes then just income taxes...

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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    I wish I was. There was a story about 5 years ago on Yahoo about a 5 year old student in New York City that was arrested for jumping into a puddle while standing in line to go back inside. I can't find a link to it, but I do remember reading about it.
    waiting to see it in print....but you said for "not listening"....you cannot be arrested for "crimes" that are not on the books...except in parts of the deep south where small towns make up their own laws willy nilly, or should I say Higglly Piggly.....

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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    waiting to see it in print....but you said for "not listening"....you cannot be arrested for "crimes" that are not on the books...except in parts of the deep south where small towns make up their own laws willy nilly, or should I say Higglly Piggly.....

    If you home school, why are you here, now?
    Yes, the child was told to stop jumping in the puddle and didn't listen. That's why he was arrested.

    I pay property taxes, so I have a right to say what I want about public indoctrination centers. I also have the freedom of thought and expression. Let me guess I'm not allowed to express or think for myself that contradicts the public indoctrination centers?

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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    You're right in that they don't receive an education. They receive indoctrination of the state approved curriculum. I guess that you never considered that there are more taxes then just income taxes...
    I am 64 years old, been paying taxes since 1963. Year before last, we were in the top tax bracket.
    I have even prepared taxes for others. I know plenty about taxes.
    And your stale repetition of the word Indoctrination isn't getting you anywhere. IT just tells us that you don't like public schools, and we all figured that out the first time you said it.
    again, what state are you in?
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I am 64 years old, been paying taxes since 1963. Year before last, we were in the top tax bracket.
    I have even prepared taxes for others. I know plenty about taxes.
    And your stale repetition of the word Indoctrination isn't getting you anywhere. IT just tells us that you don't like public schools, and we all figured that out the first time you said it.
    again, what state are you in?
    If you know so much about taxes then why didn't you account for excise, sales, and other taxes that aren't income taxes?

    If our schools actually taught something then we would be doing much better in literacy and in comparison with other countries. We're not and our literacy rates keep dropping. The only thing the schools do well is indoctrinate children to be unthinking drones that will follow orders unconditionally.

    I'm under no obligation to tell you where I live at. I prefer to not reveal where I live at to a complete stranger.
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    True, but they are a larger factor than anything else over which the school has control.
    That's the important bit. The kids aren't going to do any reading outside of class. I always thought the liberal-arts style of Socratic method teaching is the best for an inner city group of kids.

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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Yes, the child was told to stop jumping in the puddle and didn't listen. That's why he was arrested.

    I pay property taxes, so I have a right to say what I want about public indoctrination centers. I also have the freedom of thought and expression. Let me guess I'm not allowed to express or think for myself that contradicts the public indoctrination centers?
    You pay property taxes? so do I, on 2 houses. And the wife and I pay income taxes on a 6 figure income. We didn't get to where we are by attending "public indoctrination centers". I was raised a baptist, tho, in east Texas. Does that count?
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    If you know so much about taxes then why didn't you account for excise, sales, and other taxes that aren't income taxes?

    If our schools actually taught something then we would be doing much better in literacy and in comparison with other countries. We're not and our literacy rates keep dropping. The only thing the schools do well is indoctrinate children to be unthinking drones that will follow orders unconditionally.

    I'm under no obligation to tell you where I live at. I prefer to not reveal where I live at to a complete stranger.
    Why should I? the topic is teacher pay based on years experience....it has been sidetracked to how we can make the schools better. Since you home school, you really don't have a stake in the education of other people's kids, do you?
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Why should I? the topic is teacher pay based on years experience....it has been sidetracked to how we can make the schools better. Since you home school, you really don't have a stake in the education of other people's kids, do you?
    I pay property taxes so yes this means I have a stake. Let me guess I'm not allowed to have freedom of expression and thought and that I'm to be a good little drone that follows orders without any critical thinking.

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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    That's the important bit. The kids aren't going to do any reading outside of class. I always thought the liberal-arts style of Socratic method teaching is the best for an inner city group of kids.
    I read all I could as a child, made a big difference. I even talked my parents into buying the World Book Encyclopedia, and I read most of it. Took me about 5 years, reading off and on...
    Kandahar's point that I highlighted...over which the school has control is important to consider, especially for those who think teaching in public schools is easy. The schools really don't have any control over the community, not even when we "indoctrinate" their kids....
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