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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Maybe what would be better than having "2-weeks off" every 6 weeks is to instead give the students 2 weeks of "self teaching" at the school once every 6 weeks. During those 2 weeks, students will be allowed to pursue their own interests at school with only a moderate amount of teacher involvement. This may turn teachers into glorified babysitters for 2 weeks after every 6, but I don't see that as being a particular problem since schools already have the facilities to allow it.

    god forbid we actually expect parents to be inconvenienced or pay a little money for daycare to go to year round schooling. I have a novel idea, why don't we take all those worthless ****s on welfare, bring them into the schools for the two weeks to baby sit the kids and let the teachers spend those two weeks attending seminars and training classes. that way the parents still won't have to be involved in their kid's education.
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    The biggest stride we could make is to change the culture of America. Parents should limit video game time, instill discipline in their children, and teach them that education is the most important thing in their lives. Once the gangsta culture, or that which values ignorance and coolness over intelligence, is destroyed, schools and students will improve dramatically.

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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Our 2 kids are smart, get that from their father, of course....
    actually, mom has all the degrees in the family, a Bachelors and 2 masters...
    anyway, for SOME of their years in the early grades, they had teachers who allowed them to help the slower students. But for the most part, they just pulled out a book and read when teacher had to go over some topic several times for the slower kids.
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    And the best teacher can't teach a smart kid much of anything if the teacher's hands get tied by elected officials looking for a shotgun solution to education.
    yep, best teacher can't teach any kid much of anything when they have to spend 80% of the class period keeping thugs and criminals under control.
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    There are far more inferior students in the schools than there are inferior teachers. How do you fire a student? Or the parents who don't care enough about their kids to make them do their homework?
    that would be great. fire the crap students. you refuse to perform in school...we got a job for you picking up trash along the interstate or patrolling the border looking for illegals.
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    You can work for an asshole who's got an issue with you at ANY job. Why should teachers be treated differently? I'll say it once again: The purpose of schools are to educate students, not to provide jobs for teachers. While I'm certainly willing to give arguments a fair hearing if people don't think that certain policies will lead to better student results, I am almost wholly unsympathetic to arguments that don't even consider whether it might help the students and instead just argue "That isn't fair to the teachers." That's too bad, as long as it helps the students. The school is for the students, not the teachers.

    Will the occasional good teacher get fired under a merit system? Yeah, probably. Sucks for them. They can go to the school in the next district over and get a job, with their proven results in hand.
    This thread is about teachers is it not? I think it is.
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Our 2 kids are smart, get that from their father, of course....
    actually, mom has all the degrees in the family, a Bachelors and 2 masters...
    anyway, for SOME of their years in the early grades, they had teachers who allowed them to help the slower students. But for the most part, they just pulled out a book and read when teacher had to go over some topic several times for the slower kids.
    As for elected officials, our years in Idaho showed how much damage a school board can do when it is infested with farmers...
    My older two kids are both smart, never had a problem in school what they didn't get in class the wife or I supplemented at home. Our young two (adopted) struggled in school due to developmental issues cuased by their crackhead birth moms. They just weren't getting the individualized attention they needed in school. We decided to make the sacrifice and my wife quit work to stay home and homeschool them. I pitch in with math and science in the evenings. It would have been much easier for us to have just let them coast through public school and graduated not knowing a damn thing.
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    My older two kids are both smart, never had a problem in school what they didn't get in class the wife or I supplemented at home. Our young two (adopted) struggled in school due to developmental issues cuased by their crackhead birth moms. They just weren't getting the individualized attention they needed in school. We decided to make the sacrifice and my wife quit work to stay home and homeschool them. I pitch in with math and science in the evenings. It would have been much easier for us to have just let them coast through public school and graduated not knowing a damn thing.
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    complete and total horseshi ite. the greatest single predictor is the quality of the student. the best teacher in the world can't teach a moron to be a brain surgeon.
    I said that teacher quality is the most important variable in our education system. A student's innate ability lies outside the purview of things that can be changed by government policy.

    Furthermore, the best teacher in the world might not be able to teach a moron to be a brain surgeon, but he can at least teach a moron to be a productive member of society. At least in the aggregate, if not in all individual cases.
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    Re: Should teachers be paid purely based on years of experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    There are far more inferior students in the schools than there are inferior teachers. How do you fire a student?
    By expelling them for misbehavior, or transferring them to a school for students with behavioral or learning disabilities.

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    Or the parents who don't care enough about their kids to make them do their homework?
    What exactly do you propose that we do about that?

    I've always believed that blaming the parents is just a cop-out, because it is an excuse to avoid making necessary changes to our educational system. Of course there are bad parents, but there is very little that can be done about that. Replacing bad teachers is easy...or at least it should be.
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