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Thread: Is there any good reason for suicide?

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    Is there any good reason for suicide?

    This thread does not include those who are sick terminally and they are facing a terrible death. What does thread wants to talk about are people who have committed suicide without any warning. Do you believe it is ok to commit suicide and have you ever tried/considered?

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    Re: Is there any good reason for suicide?

    Well most of the time there is a warning, it just depends on if you notice it at the time. My best friend committed suicide in February and looking back on it there were definite signs that I should have picked up on, but didn't.

    As as to the second part of your question I will just say yes.
    Last edited by soccerboy22; 09-28-10 at 05:57 PM.

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    Re: Is there any good reason for suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Well most of the time there is a warning, it just depends on if you notice it at the time. My best friend committed suicide in February and looking back on it there were definite signs that I should have picked up on, but didn't.
    it's tough to know. and i'm so sorry.

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    Re: Is there any good reason for suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    This thread does not include those who are sick terminally and they are facing a terrible death. What does thread wants to talk about are people who have committed suicide without any warning. Do you believe it is ok to commit suicide and have you ever tried/considered?
    The option I want isn't listed. It's a terrible thing to do, and I would never do it.

    Suicide (as you have described it) is a selfish, desperate act to avoid confronting the problems life throws at us. It's selfish because it breaks the hearts of those who loved us. And those who commit suicide are so self-absorbed they can't see the forest for the trees. It's desperate because those who do commit suicide are generally in some stage of clinical depression. They see no hope. Get no joy from life. And figure, "Why bother?"

    Suicide crossed my mind once in my life...during a bout with depression. The urge passed. Was never too strong. But -- I recognize now -- the depression wasn't too deep.

    Because of another question you've asked just recently, I would tell you that, if suicide is crossing your mind, you really do, honestly, need to reach out to someone who can help. Holding in powerful emotions, trying to live with depression by one's self, is very very difficult.
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    Re: Is there any good reason for suicide?

    The only time I'd consider suicide as a good option for someone is if they are already dying and are in unbearable pain.

    If they are just depressed, counseling and medications are always better options.
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    Re: Is there any good reason for suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    The only time I'd consider suicide as a good option for someone is if they are already dying and are in unbearable pain.

    If they are just depressed, counseling and medications are always better options.
    In my state of Oregon doctor assisted suicide is legal. To be considered the patient must be certified by two doctors that you have 6 months or less to live and of sound mind. I think this is a good law and apparently the voters of the Washington state thought so too, they recently pasted a similar law.
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    Re: Is there any good reason for suicide?

    If you have a reason to live, then you have a reason to die. What is funny is how our culture shapes our view of death.

    If a soldier throws his body on a grenade to save his comrades, then his sacrifice makes him a hero. If a man cannot emotionally cope with the suffering in the world and offs himself, then he is a coward. Apparently it is justified to kill ourselves for the well being of others but not because we can't cope with living.

    If a murderer offs himself then most people rejoice that we won't have to pay the legal system to kill him. A parent offs himself and people are angry because of the burden he has left on the remaining parent to look after the children. Apparently it is justified to kill ourselves as long as we don't inconvenience other people and it is even appreciated if we make things easier for people.

    If a man is burned at the stake by his religious persecutors for refusing to give up his religious beliefs then he is martyr. If a man blows himself up and takes some of his enemies with him, then he is a terrorist. Apparently allowing yourself to die for what you believe is fine but taking other people with you in the process is not.

    And it goes on and on.

    As far as me, I had the intent and means to commit suicide once but I couldn't go through with it. Mainly, I was afraid it would hurt.
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    Re: Is there any good reason for suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    If you have a reason to live, then you have a reason to die. What is funny is how our culture shapes our view of death.

    If a soldier throws his body on a grenade to save his comrades, then his sacrifice makes him a hero. If a man cannot emotionally cope with the suffering in the world and offs himself, then he is a coward. Apparently it is justified to kill ourselves for the well being of others but not because we can't cope with living.

    If a murderer offs himself then most people rejoice that we won't have to pay the legal system to kill him. A parent offs himself and people are angry because of the burden he has left on the remaining parent to look after the children. Apparently it is justified to kill ourselves as long as we don't inconvenience other people and it is even appreciated if we make things easier for people.

    If a man is burned at the stake by his religious persecutors for refusing to give up his religious beliefs then he is martyr. If a man blows himself up and takes some of his enemies with him, then he is a terrorist. Apparently allowing yourself to die for what you believe is fine but taking other people with you in the process is not.

    And it goes on and on.

    As far as me, I had the intent and means to commit suicide once but I couldn't go through with it. Mainly, I was afraid it would hurt.
    Well I think there is a big difference between being murdered and committing suicide. If someone with a young child commits suicide are you going to compare them to a parent who sacrifices their life to save their child? One respects this great gift that was bestowed upon living beings, the other seems to have taken it for granted.

    Also, the man that "blows himself up and takes his enemies with him" is also considered a martyr in some religions.
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    Re: Is there any good reason for suicide?

    It is selfish for us to keep others from killing themselves....
    There are people in considerable pain, or facing a progressive illness for which there is no imminent cure..
    I hope to be able to take my own life before entering the final stages of the disease I have, IF it gets that bad. Doctor says I stand just as good a chance of dying from something related to old age before the Parkinson's gets too bad, but once I hit stage 4, I will start planning on ending my life before getting into stage 5.
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    Re: Is there any good reason for suicide?

    My late father suffered an extremely painful form of cancer in his face and throat that required a trach tube and rendered him unable to talk the last 6 months of his life. He fought hard going through three rounds of chemo and a couple of radiation. Four of five days before he died (he died at home-he had 24-7 nursing care) from the MRSA he contracted during one of his many trips to the ICU (he actually beat the cancer but couldn't beat the bug) I went to see him and he patted the side of my jacket and wrote down-Give me your pistol I want to die. I told him I wasn't carrying and he shouldn't give up hope even though I had just met with his doctor and got the news that nothing they had could stop the infection.

    I wouldn't have blamed him if he had killed himself at that point.

    My mother on the other hand was different. she basically committed suicide-she came down with pneumonia (she had COPD-like my father she was a heavy smoker) and refused treatment. Maybe not as drastic as eating a gun but the same thing. NOw I was very bitter about that because she could have beaten that pneumonia with a simple course of Ceflex and refused.



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