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    Re: Doesn't a middle class tax cut also benefit the the Rich?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    scrape away the thin facade of supposed "what is best for America" from a liberal and what will you find-a boil of envy and spite
    Scrape away the thin facade of supposed "what is best for America" from an arrogant Gordon Gekko wannabe and what will you find - a boil of Marie Antoinette elitism.

    All you've done in this thread is claim that the country would be worse off if the middle class paid lower taxes because they might vote for policies that don't benefit you personally. What you really mean is that you think YOU would be worse off...and you don't even have any evidence for THAT claim.
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    Re: Doesn't a middle class tax cut also benefit the the Rich?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Scrape away the thin facade of supposed "what is best for America" from an arrogant Gordon Gekko wannabe and what will you find - a boil of Marie Antoinette elitism.

    All you've done in this thread is claim that the country would be worse off if the middle class paid lower taxes because they might vote for policies that don't benefit you personally. What you really mean is that you think YOU would be worse off...and you don't even have any evidence for THAT claim.
    the parasite class and those who pander to them always want to claim that those who oppose them do so for individualistic selfish reasons while the parasites think only of the common good.



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    Re: Doesn't a middle class tax cut also benefit the the Rich?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Like taking over 17% of the US economy.
    When did the government take over 17% of the US economy? Kindly did in facts rather than sensational hyperbole.

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    Re: Doesn't a middle class tax cut also benefit the the Rich?

    The middle class has shown us that they spend their money recklessly. Why not give them more to spend recklessly. It beats the s*** out of giving it to the rich who are more likely to save of the money or just dodge the tax all together.

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    Re: Doesn't a middle class tax cut also benefit the the Rich?

    Quote Originally Posted by Teh Internets View Post
    The middle class has shown us that they spend their money recklessly. Why not give them more to spend recklessly. It beats the s*** out of giving it to the rich who are more likely to save of the money or just dodge the tax all together.
    you think tax cuts involves GIVING to the rich

    now I understand the source of your confusion



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    Re: Doesn't a middle class tax cut also benefit the the Rich?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the parasite class and those who pander to them always want to claim that those who oppose them do so for individualistic selfish reasons while the parasites think only of the common good.
    I'm sure that there are some who just want free goodies, but there are plenty of others who legitimately believe that "the common good" is something other than what YOU believe it is. The fact that you are unwilling to acknowledge this possibility just exposes you as a demagogue who lacks the intelligence to truly understand any other political ideas.

    As for opposing them for individualistic, selfish reasons...that doesn't apply to all conservatives either. I know that some legitimately believe that the common good is something other than what I think it is. With that said, the "individualistic, selfish reasons" certainly applies to YOU, as evidenced by your incessant bragging about your wealth and referring to everyone else as "the parasite class."
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    Re: Doesn't a middle class tax cut also benefit the the Rich?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you think tax cuts involves GIVING to the rich

    now I understand the source of your confusion
    That silly talking point might actually make some degree of sense, if you actually towed the standard conservative/libertarian line and favored tax cuts for everyone. But when you only want the rich to pay less and you want to finance it by making the middle-class pay more, it absolutely DOES involve giving to the rich no matter how you slice it.
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    Re: Doesn't a middle class tax cut also benefit the the Rich?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I'm sure that there are some who just want free goodies, but there are plenty of others who legitimately believe that "the common good" is something other than what YOU believe it is. The fact that you are unwilling to acknowledge this possibility just exposes you as a demagogue who lacks the intelligence to truly understand any other political ideas.

    As for opposing them for individualistic, selfish reasons...that doesn't apply to all conservatives either. I know that some legitimately believe that the common good is something other than what I think it is. With that said, the "individualistic, selfish reasons" certainly applies to YOU, as evidenced by your incessant bragging about your wealth and referring to everyone else as "the parasite class."
    well here is the deal

    I fully believe you know what is best for you. That is consistent with my political philosophy and it makes sense that you are in the best position to know your own needs and wants. I know what is best for me. ANd I tire of libs pretending that they want tax hikes for the greater good and then claim that we who oppose them only worry about ourselves


    and envy and spite permeate your posts given the fact that you and a few others constantly want to attack me personally



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    Re: Doesn't a middle class tax cut also benefit the the Rich?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    That silly talking point might actually make some degree of sense, if you actually towed the standard conservative/libertarian line and favored tax cuts for everyone. But when you only want the rich to pay less and you want to finance it by making the middle-class pay more, it absolutely DOES involve giving to the rich no matter how you slice it.
    wrong-I want there to be NO income taxes but I said if there has to be tax hikes they should be on those who don't pay their fair share of the taxes. and the top 1% already pay far more than their fair share

    I want the government to spend about a half of what it does now--I am not the one howling for more and more social spending as you do



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    Re: Doesn't a middle class tax cut also benefit the the Rich?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I fully believe you know what is best for you.
    No you don't. If you did, you would evaluate political policies (e.g. tax cuts for the middle class) on their merits, rather than on how they would play out politically. Your desire to punish the middle-class with higher taxes, simply because they favor policies that you don't agree with, is petty and childish. This is exactly how politics should NOT work.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude
    That is consistent with my political philosophy and it makes sense that you are in the best position to know your own needs and wants. I know what is best for me.
    A nice boilerplate talking point, but in your case it is certainly not true.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude
    ANd I tire of libs pretending that they want tax hikes for the greater good and then claim that we who oppose them only worry about ourselves
    I would never claim that all conservatives are only concerned about themselves. Just you.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude
    and envy and spite permeate your posts given the fact that you and a few others constantly want to attack me personally
    That isn't because of your political views or your socioeconomic status. It's because you're annoying. And who is attacking whom again? You called me "dishonest and silly" in Post #14 after I simply requested that you support your speculation with some evidence, without even disputing your claim.
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