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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    I don't think there are very many districts in the US where the ONLY sex education is "abstinence only". Offhand I don't know of any that don't ALSO teach about condoms and disease and "safe" sex and so forth.

    There may be a few, but I'm pretty sure that it is a small percentage.

    I firmly believe that kids should be taught that the ONLY way to be SURE you don't get pregnant before you're ready, or get an STD, is abstinence.... BUT if you're going to ignore that and do it anyway, this is called a condom, and they aren't 100% fool-proof but they do help prevent etc etc...

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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    That might be true, but all the motivation in the world won't give students the education they need if your textbooks are twenty years old, or your teacher doesn't know a damn thing about the subject he teaches.
    again, it must vary greatly by state because down here teachers have to pass a test in their area of speciality before the state will certify them to teach.
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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    perhaps you are confusing private schools with public education? I don't know how the great state of maryland runs their public schools but down here in backwards assed alabammy, all the public schools get the same funding (based on average daily attendance) and all the teachers must meet the same qualification standards and yet the schools in the "poorer" areas still under-perform. maybe the fault lies not with the schools but with the parents. maybe if the poor parents put the same emphasis on education with their kids as the "rich" parents did, they might do better.
    I don't think how much money a school has is all about state funding though. Some schools in "more economically stable" areas, such as my high school, do get a lot of private donation funding. The school received the same amount of funds, per student, that other NC schools did, but they also had a lot of things donated or built by donation, such as the second gym, the pool, the auditorium, the greenhouse, and various other little additions to the school. Also, some things, such as the beautiful courtyard, were senior class gifts, which were built due to fundraising. Fundraising in a more well-off city is probably going to go a lot better than it does in a poorer area. Along with all this, school activities that are meant to bring funds in, such as sport ticket sales and alumni offers probably bring in a lot more revenue in richer areas rather than poor ones.
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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    again, it must vary greatly by state because down here teachers have to pass a test in their area of speciality before the state will certify them to teach.
    You're probably right, and I think that's a pity.

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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    And what about giving them proper knowledge about sex bad?
    Giving knoewledge and not including abstinance is condoning them having sex. You want to encourage our kids to have sex

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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Funny, I don't remember being taught sex ed when I was in school and for some reason the teen pregnancy rate wasn't sky high. What could possibly be the difference between then and now???? could it be that PARENTS are not ****ing doing their ****ing job anymore???? No......that couldn't possibly be the problem. it has to be that we aren't teaching the right kind of sex ed in our public schools.
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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I don't think how much money a school has is all about state funding though. Some schools in "more economically stable" areas, such as my high school, do get a lot of private donation funding. The school received the same amount of funds, per student, that other NC schools did, but they also had a lot of things donated or built by donation, such as the second gym, the pool, the auditorium, the greenhouse, and various other little additions to the school. Also, some things, such as the beautiful courtyard, were senior class gifts, which were built due to fundraising. Fundraising in a more well-off city is probably going to go a lot better than it does in a poorer area. Along with all this, school activities that are meant to bring funds in, such as sport ticket sales and alumni offers probably bring in a lot more revenue in richer areas rather than poor ones.
    yeah but all that extra money doesn't go to buy textbooks and pay teachers. there is no excuse for any school to have 20 year old textbooks ( which personally I think is bull**** because with normal wear and tear a book isn't going to last that long...that claim is ridiculous)
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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Giving knoewledge and not including abstinance is condoning them having sex. You want to encourage our kids to have sex
    When did I say to not include abstinence? Also, no one is encouraging them to have sex, teenagers don't need any encouragement to have sex, they've got that covered already. We need to give them the knowledge so that they don't end up with unwanted pregnancies, and STD's.
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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Funny, I don't remember being taught sex ed when I was in school and for some reason the teen pregnancy rate wasn't sky high. What could possibly be the difference between then and now???? could it be that PARENTS are not ****ing doing their ****ing job anymore???? No......that couldn't possibly be the problem. it has to be that we aren't teaching the right kind of sex ed in our public schools.
    One problem is that parents either don't have technical knowledge, or they are just biased and misinform their children due to ideological bias. A lot of parents believe in false strategies.


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