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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    When our schools aren't horribly underfunded and stuck with mediocre, unqualified teachers, then we can have another evaluation. Rich schools get good grades.
    perhaps you are confusing private schools with public education? I don't know how the great state of maryland runs their public schools but down here in backwards assed alabammy, all the public schools get the same funding (based on average daily attendance) and all the teachers must meet the same qualification standards and yet the schools in the "poorer" areas still under-perform. maybe the fault lies not with the schools but with the parents. maybe if the poor parents put the same emphasis on education with their kids as the "rich" parents did, they might do better.
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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    I'm not saying that there aren't serious problems unrelated to money, but money is a big ****ing problem.

    I grew up with parents who worked their asses off to send me to Catholic school. That's a horror in itself, but it's nothing compared to the atrocious schools my neighborhood pals went to. Books missing wars, teachers only a chapter ahead of the students, rickety desks and decrepit infrastructure. It's appalling. I've witnessed first-hand the self-destructiveness of the proletariat, but that doesn't mean these schools don't need a massive green injection.
    I taught in an inner city public school for 9 years and by far the biggest problem I ever saw was the apathy from the students and parents towards learning. no amount of $$$ spent on the school will fix that.
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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    perhaps you are confusing private schools with public education? I don't know how the great state of maryland runs their public schools but down here in backwards assed alabammy, all the public schools get the same funding (based on average daily attendance) and all the teachers must meet the same qualification standards and yet the schools in the "poorer" areas still under-perform. maybe the fault lies not with the schools but with the parents. maybe if the poor parents put the same emphasis on education with their kids as the "rich" parents did, they might do better.
    I'm actually not sure exactly how education funds are supposed to be allocated, but you wouldn't expect the answer to be "the same funding across the board" if you looked at our schools. I went to public high school in a reasonably well-off area. The disparity between the state of public schools where I used to live and where I lived/went to high school is unimaginable.

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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Abstinence only sex education works until it doesn't work. Kids with raging hormones need all the information they can get.


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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I taught in an inner city public school for 9 years and by far the biggest problem I ever saw was the apathy from the students and parents towards learning. no amount of $$$ spent on the school will fix that.
    That might be true, but all the motivation in the world won't give students the education they need if your textbooks are twenty years old, or your teacher doesn't know a damn thing about the subject he teaches.

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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Tell them it is ok to have sex? So we want a bunch of perverts and whores as our kids now? This shows how this society no longer cares about morals, all that matters is pleasure and your own gratification

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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    When our schools aren't horribly underfunded and stuck with mediocre, unqualified teachers, then we can have another evaluation. Rich schools get good grades.
    Oh, well if you say that's the reason for the gap, and if you say that pouring more money in would fix it, then that must be the case.

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    Oh, I am, but I'm not interested in taking backward ideas about how our government should function for granted.

    I assume that this thread was a place where our opinions could be broadcasted, and I gave you mine. I don't care if you don't think that's how our government works.
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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Oh, well if you say that's the reason for the gap, and if you say that pouring more money in would fix it, then that must be the case.



    It's not what I think, it's how the government does work, your fantasies notwithstanding.



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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I agree with that, though you don't really have to teach abstinence. Just give the definition, and and your basically done with teaching abstinence.
    i don't think so...i think it's important that kids know there are MANY reason to defer having sex, not the least of which is avoiding pregnancy.

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    Re: Should we move away from abstinence only sex education?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Tell them it is ok to have sex? So we want a bunch of perverts and whores as our kids now? This shows how this society no longer cares about morals, all that matters is pleasure and your own gratification
    And what about giving them proper knowledge about sex bad?
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