View Poll Results: Does communism cause most of the population to live in poverty?

Voters
42. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes, pretty much

    17 40.48%
  • Of course

    29 69.05%
Multiple Choice Poll.
Page 16 of 25 FirstFirst ... 61415161718 ... LastLast
Results 151 to 160 of 241

Thread: Does communism force a portion of the population to live in poverty?

  1. #151
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    In your dreams...
    Last Seen
    05-29-12 @ 02:53 PM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    10,621

    Re: Does communism force a portion of the population to live in poverty?

    Never, really, allocation of goods and addressing product demand with control has never been achieved. I like Khayembii's analogy of the lightbulb having been an idea before it was achieved. If it works its good. Countries such as Russia had no chance in engineering an economy top down. Except the economy of miltiary defense.

  2. #152
    Traditionalist
    phattonez's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Last Seen
    12-05-17 @ 03:45 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    20,072

    Re: Does communism force a portion of the population to live in poverty?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Never, really, allocation of goods and addressing product demand with control has never been achieved. I like Khayembii's analogy of the lightbulb having been an idea before it was achieved. If it works its good. Countries such as Russia had no chance in engineering an economy top down. Except the economy of miltiary defense.
    Except that a lightbulb could possibly have one day worked (and now it does). Communism is nice to theorize about, but I don't see human nature changing anytime soon.

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
    "True law is right reason in agreement with nature . . . Whoever is disobedient is fleeing from himself and denying his human nature [and] will suffer the worst penalties . . ." - Cicero

  3. #153
    Professor

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Grand Junction, CO 81506
    Last Seen
    05-30-11 @ 07:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    2,236

    Re: Does communism force a portion of the population to live in poverty?

    Quote Originally Posted by snbl11225 View Post
    I disagree with your premise. There are some people who can rise to the top within our system. But please don't tell me that they can do it without the others below them who are providing the labor, products, etc.
    They also need trusted friends with mutual interests, a good business plan, being at the right place at the right time with the right kind of experience and connections, and plain old good luck.

    ricksfolly

  4. #154
    Professor

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Grand Junction, CO 81506
    Last Seen
    05-30-11 @ 07:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    2,236

    Re: Does communism force a portion of the population to live in poverty?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    In reality a communist society is only as poor as the economy is badly managed.
    Communism works fine for a while, and then the leaders get over ambitious and greedy.

    What they needed from the start was a locked-in computerized plan that couldn't be altered until a group representing the people approved it.

    ricksfolly

  5. #155
    Traditionalist
    phattonez's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Last Seen
    12-05-17 @ 03:45 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    20,072

    Re: Does communism force a portion of the population to live in poverty?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Communism works fine for a while, and then the leaders get over ambitious and greedy.

    What they needed from the start was a locked-in computerized plan that couldn't be altered until a group representing the people approved it.

    ricksfolly
    That doesn't change the Economic Calculation Problem.

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
    "True law is right reason in agreement with nature . . . Whoever is disobedient is fleeing from himself and denying his human nature [and] will suffer the worst penalties . . ." - Cicero

  6. #156
    Professor

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Grand Junction, CO 81506
    Last Seen
    05-30-11 @ 07:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    2,236

    Re: Does communism force a portion of the population to live in poverty?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    That doesn't change the Economic Calculation Problem.
    Depends on how many contracts they have, how much money they gross, the kind and number of facilities and labor needed, balanced sliding rate scales, and thorough programmers.

    ricksfolly

  7. #157
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    In your dreams...
    Last Seen
    05-29-12 @ 02:53 PM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    10,621

    Re: Does communism force a portion of the population to live in poverty?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Communism works fine for a while, and then the leaders get over ambitious and greedy.

    What they needed from the start was a locked-in computerized plan that couldn't be altered until a group representing the people approved it.

    ricksfolly
    What are you talking about? Communist countries can be democracies or anarchies if they wished

  8. #158
    Professor

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Grand Junction, CO 81506
    Last Seen
    05-30-11 @ 07:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    2,236

    Re: Does communism force a portion of the population to live in poverty?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    What are you talking about? Communist countries can be democracies or anarchies if they wished
    Nope, I'm only saying that socialism might work if the the corruption can be kept out of it, nothing about politics or other methods.

    ricksfolly

  9. #159
    Traditionalist
    phattonez's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Last Seen
    12-05-17 @ 03:45 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    20,072

    Re: Does communism force a portion of the population to live in poverty?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Depends on how many contracts they have, how much money they gross, the kind and number of facilities and labor needed, balanced sliding rate scales, and thorough programmers.

    ricksfolly
    A small communist state could work, but it would never work on a world-wide scale.

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
    "True law is right reason in agreement with nature . . . Whoever is disobedient is fleeing from himself and denying his human nature [and] will suffer the worst penalties . . ." - Cicero

  10. #160
    Tavern Bartender
    Constitutionalist
    American's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Virginia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    76,277

    Re: Does communism force a portion of the population to live in poverty?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Good post.
    The poll is obviously fixed and controlled.
    Balance is the key, and we need more socialism to restore a good balance.
    Listen to the independent mind!
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

Page 16 of 25 FirstFirst ... 61415161718 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •