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Tired of elections being between the lesser of two evils.When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. -Socrates
Would you still be you, then? Or would you be somebody else altogether?
As for the material world, I don't really know how else to describe it. "Material," in my definition, means that something is capable of exerting a noticeable influence on something else. It is observable in some way. To the best of my knowledge, no one has ever demonstrated something acting on the material world that is attributable only to a "soul."
As for me being as spiritual as you are, see my above post regarding positive assertions.
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This energy based life is what coordinates cells to become very complex organic beings with every cell in its body working in conjunction.
This energy based life is the soul of organic tissue.
Everything on every planet with living tissue has to have an ecosystem where it is a constant cycle of consumption...in other words a constant cycle of every species attacking, killing, scavanging, and consuming....even plants have an energy based life form coordinating all its cells to be a complex organic being...this can be shown in how even plants somehow developed many types of defense mechanisms, even consuming insects with traps, and ways to proliferate.
This acts as a type of snowball effect where living tissue is consuming, recycling, reincarnating, and evolving....
The energy based life using these organic tissues as a host during this cycle... also has a snowball effect where it too evolves and reincarnates with each generation of the ecosystem...
It is this energy based life using organic tissue as a host...being its soul...that will move on if it reaches specifications...
These specifications will be judged by whatever put all the energy and matter into the singularity that created our Universe...
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If any of my loved ones choose to divert from the path of God and deviate. I truly hope they feel strongly in their convictions to then carry it on even after death.
I would have shown my children the path but I cannot force them to walk it. They can choose to accept it or reject it.
I'd feel sadness they made such a mistake and hence why I would try to raise any children I have as good Muslims of strong faith to avoid it
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Now there is some evidence that there is life on other planets, because we know the size of the universe and it's likely it has happened somewhere else because of the size. Let's pretend we didn't and it could range from 100 lightyears to infinite. Then scientifically we would have to say, we don't know if there is inteligent life or not. The fact that there is no evidence for life on other planets doesn't mean there is no life out there.
So your argument about positive assertions is illogical.
How? Neurons fire in our brains and give signals to other parts of the body, who then gives signals back so the brain can do something else. This could in theory make a functioning body, who interacted with it's surroundings. But where is the feeling of existence? Neurons only transmit electrical signals. There has to be something else.The order in which neurons in our brains fire is what gives us our perception of existence. The same way they give us all of our perceptions.
They are not fundementally different persons. It just looks like they are, because they behave differently after the brain damage.Acting differently and being a fundamentally different person are two different things. If I lost my right leg, I would behave differently than if I didn't, but it says nothing about the existence of my soul. People who have suffered traumatic brain injuries, however, are fundamentally different people. And if your soul is the sum total of your personality, feelings, ideas, etc., then this can be changed by altering the makeup of the brain. Suggesting that all that's needed to explain our perception, personalities, etc. can be accounted for by patterns of neuron firings.
Souls are not the sum of your personality, feeling or ideas. Those are in your brain. Souls are the governing body, it is what gives you the feeling of existence. If you placed my soul into another brain, I would have a completly different personality because I have different ideas and memories. I wouldn't even know that I have been someone else.
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Yes, there's life after death, but only if you're an organ donor.
How would heaven/paradise be heaven/paradise if you were "sad"?
Would you simply stop caring after awhile that your children were roasting eternally in a fiery pit?
It doesn't seem like the sort of thing one could simply get over, since it is, after all, eternal.
A million years from now, they'll still be roasting in that same fiery pit, and you'll still be floating around on a cloud playing a harp or whatever.
Do you think you'd ever be able to be happy?
If not, it isn't really paradise, is it?
In fact, most parents would describe knowing that one's children are being tortured and being helpless to do anything about it as "hell".
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