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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Why don't we all steal the teacher's BMW's, since the Constitution forbids federal expenditures on education?

    How about if we raid the Smithsonian, since the Constitution makes no allowance for the federal government to steal money from us to buy art?

    There's lots and lots of things that are funded with stolen money, namely everything the federal government does thats in violation of the Constitution.

    Socialist Security.
    Welfare.
    Medicare.
    MessiahCare.
    National Endowments for the Arts and Humanities.
    Foreign Aid.
    Political campaigns.
    Education.
    etc.
    So you would rather have no public education system at all?

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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Quote Originally Posted by Teh Internets View Post
    So you would rather have no public education system at all?
    that is a false choice

    public education is a state matter not a federal matter. most of the crap that he listed is a clear violation of the tenth amendment ignored by the FDR lapdog jurists. we had fine education in this country-the best in the world-before the US government started meddling in it.



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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Taxes were REDUCED for a temporary period. Just like a sale at the gas station. Say gas = taxes. The price is reduced for lets say a weekend. The gas station will make less money during that time in hopes to gain profit in other areas. THing is, the ultra rich will not be spending more or even investing more because of the sale at the fuel pump. Not from anything Ive seen. Maybe someone can provide factual information on that topic.

    Anyhow, temporary tax reduction of COURSE costs the goverment. You are reducing the amount taken in!!! Duuuhhh!
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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Taxes were REDUCED for a temporary period. Just like a sale at the gas station. Say gas = taxes. The price is reduced for lets say a weekend. The gas station will make less money during that time in hopes to gain profit in other areas. THing is, the ultra rich will not be spending more or even investing more because of the sale at the fuel pump. Not from anything Ive seen. Maybe someone can provide factual information on that topic.

    Anyhow, temporary tax reduction of COURSE costs the goverment. You are reducing the amount taken in!!! Duuuhhh!
    but you are also reducing what is taken from US

    tax cuts don't have to be paid for. spending does. if a government operates on a balanced budget if there are less taxes there has to be less spending so you can argue that a tax cut (assuming that means less revenue to the government) would mean the government could not spend as much on other stuff. is that a "cost"



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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Quote Originally Posted by Teh Internets View Post
    So you would rather have no public education system at all?
    Read my lips.

    The CONSTITUTION (and that's the legal document governing the spending of the United States government, among other things) does not allow the government to spend taxpayer dollars on education.

    Did I type slow enough for you?

    Do you have any clue what the above statement implies, given the other clauses and amendments in the Constitution?

    Do your betters always have to draw you a map?

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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Taxes were REDUCED for a temporary period.
    fine.

    State your history correctly.

    Taxes were reduced on EVERYONE "temporarily".

    That means they should be raised on everyone, or no one, to be fair.

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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    fine.

    State your history correctly.

    Taxes were reduced on EVERYONE "temporarily".

    That means they should be raised on everyone, or no one, to be fair.
    a most interesting libertarian position he has though



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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Your assumption the tax cuts reduce federal revenue is invalidated by history. Even that boob JFK realized that.
    JFK lowered the top marginal rate down to 70%, that would be perfect today. Actually, what JFK did was to make the rates fairer, but the legislation signed by LBJ closed many loopholes to keep the revenue stream going.


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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Tax cut can be compared to working less. Would you say it is free to work less. Don't thinks so.

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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    JFK lowered the top marginal rate down to 70%, that would be perfect today. Actually, what JFK did was to make the rates fairer, but the legislation signed by LBJ closed many loopholes to keep the revenue stream going.
    A very high income tax can reduce revenue, because it give people an incentive to work in the black market or find other forms of revenue that doesn't tax that much. In the long run it will also hurt the economy, which also reduce revenue.

    The high-income countries with the highest governmental spending are in this order
    Sweden, France, Denmark, Austria, Belgium, Italy
    Is Italy, Belgium and France known for their good welfare services. No, because even though they have high tax levels, they have a very inefficient economy.

    But in this topic, I assume we are talking about more reasonble tax levels.
    Last edited by Camlon; 09-19-10 at 05:58 AM.

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