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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Perhaps what you are trying to say is that tax cuts will not equate to a direct monetary cost for you.
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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    However, a tax cut would indeed mean that the Government has less money to spend/redistribute. Let us think hypothetically for a moment. Let's assume that a tax cut will equate to the government not being able to fund a particular project - repaving a highway for instance. The monetary COST in this scenario could be that the private paving contractors would lose the contract. It could equate to less money in the pocket of the company owners or a temporary layoff for the workers. WHile this obviously does not equate to a monetary loss for you or I, SOMEONE will "pay" the cost. Another way of looking at it could be that local drivers would not receive the potential benefits of a newly paved highway - one pothole and a blow-out could equal a monetary cost for that particular driver. My point was, simply, EVERY economic decsion produces tradeoffs to some extent and often, neither you nor I can fully understand the extent to which these decisions will COST someone else.
    none of that undercuts my point that what I consider to be costing money is undertaking a project or program that requires expenditures.

    tradeoffs yes

    but those who claim tax cuts "cost" money are using that to try to make it sound like the rich are getting government spending the same as special interests who get pet projects FUNDED by the EXPENDITURES of government funds.

    OC was making more out of it in an attempt to try to prove something.

    If I decide-because of the government tax hikes, that I cannot buy an expensive dinner at the 5 star eating establishment you could note that my decision costs the proprietor Business and that is one definition of costs. in the context of my points-that objective people understand-it is dishonest to claim that taking less revenue is the same as actively spending money on something.

    it also is dishonest to say a tax cut is a handout the same as welfare payments.



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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Perhaps what you are trying to say is that tax cuts will not equate to a direct monetary cost for you.
    nope= not at all



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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Yes, Obvious Child is, well, quite obvious in his attempts to bait you, LOL. And I ABSOLUTELY DO agree with your last line here:
    it also is dishonest to say a tax cut is a handout the same as welfare payments.
    Just a note FWIW, I AM infavor of cutting taxes across the board. I DO believe that in the COST-BENEFIT analysis, under our current economic situation, the benefits will definitely outweigh the "costs."
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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Yes, Obvious Child is, well, quite obvious in his attempts to bait you, LOL. And I ABSOLUTELY DO agree with your last line here:

    Just a note FWIW, I AM infavor of cutting taxes across the board. I DO believe that in the COST-BENEFIT analysis, under our current economic situation, the benefits will definitely outweigh the "costs."
    sounds like this discussion has come to an intelligent end

    thanks



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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    nope= not at all
    Then explain how a tax cut WOULD NOT mean that SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE (either government or private sector) would have less money? Doesn't less money than you normally have = cost Where I come from, ANYONE who is giving up money, is paying a COST. LOL
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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Then explain how a tax cut WOULD NOT mean that SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE (either government or private sector) would have less money? Doesn't less money than you normally have = cost Where I come from, ANYONE who is giving up money, is paying a COST. LOL
    nope-on one side I have costs (mortgage, gas and electric, insurance, ammunition etc ) and on the other side I have revenue. Less revenue is not in the cost column any more than refinancing my house and saving on payments goes into the revenue side of my ledger



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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    nope-on one side I have costs (mortgage, gas and electric, insurance, ammunition etc ) and on the other side I have revenue. Less revenue is not in the cost column any more than refinancing my house and saving on payments goes into the revenue side of my ledger
    So, your definition of cost is what you actually pay for with money. Fair enough. Just wanted to make sure i was on the same page. Interesting discussion, even if the OP was only intended to bait.
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    Re: Tax cuts are free

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    So, your definition of cost is what you actually pay for with money. Fair enough. Just wanted to make sure i was on the same page. Interesting discussion, even if the OP was only intended to bait.
    the more important point was the one I made earlier--trying to bash tax cuts as being handouts is dishonest and that is clearly the intent of those who claim that tax cuts are a cost to the government equivalent to say spending millions to research sexual practices of armadillos or sending some questionable regime a couple dozen of our most advanced air-superiority fighters



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    Re: Tax cuts are free

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    lol. Nice going there turtledude. Logging out of the system and voting repetitively as a guest. Actual real users who voted "free" are at the moment 3. The rest are guest voters. Honesty is clearly not a trait you hold.
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