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Should Obama Replace His Prop Manager?

Should Obama Replace His Stage Manager?

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    Votes: 2 66.7%

  • No.

    Votes: 1 33.3%
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Here's the real dea.

Persons demanding taxes be raised on others should make damn sure they've actually paid their taxes. If what the gander says is good for the goose isn't good for that gander, then the gander should be the next guest of honor for dinner on Sunday.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
No, that's not working, since I haven't seen you on the rampage against the criminals in the Messiah's posse.
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I'm not on a rampage against the criminals in the GOP either. I'm just pointing out that going on a rampage in Obama's administration is disingenuous if conservatives don't go on rampages against those in their own party or movements.
 
MSgt said:
Touche (ew. I used a French word). I have to agree. You are very smart sam (<----- that's a good one).
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Thanks. It's a quote from "Mass Effect."
 
OK - class warfare-Umm Been there done that. Ok lets see. ah I know its like beating a dead horse they want us to run up and shew flies off of it. All while they declare its gonna get up and be the best horse in the race and with our help, by gum it win!. WELL no more dems and rep. My arms are tired, and I "do declare" the flys are gettin mighty thick on these here arguments as of late.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
True enough, but I'm certain many of those staffers are having personal financial problems that make paying the exorbitant taxes this government overcharges difficult. A former president of the New York Federal Reserve has more than enough money to pay his taxes, and he has the personal accountants to fill out the forms. Like Leona Helmsley, Geitner should have put on trial, not confirmed by the Senate.
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Shouldn't you have winked after your bolded remark here? When one is salaried, income tax is withheld. To overstate one's dependents is wrong, so they shouldn't be doing that. To have other income on which one isn't prepared to pay taxes? Also wrong. There is NO excuse. Geitner owed $40,000 plus or minus. He paid it. Paultry, really, by comparison.
 
MaggieD said:
Shouldn't you have winked after your bolded remark here? When one is salaried, income tax is withheld. To overstate one's dependents is wrong, so they shouldn't be doing that. To have other income on which one isn't prepared to pay taxes? Also wrong. There is NO excuse. Geitner owed $40,000 plus or minus. He paid it. Paultry, really, by comparison.
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You're kidding, me, right? Some clerk in the Patent and Trademark Office, some of whom I used to go to school with, gets paid a $40k a year salary, to live in one of the most expensive areas of the country, and they perhaps marry someone else with their own income, which may be variable, with dependents, with deductible medical expenses, business losses or gains from personal time private side businesses.....and you soon discover that Big Brother chewed up Winston Smith just like BB chewed proles.

The government quackery that will soon be making all of us give detailed personal financial and tax information to make a simple gold purchase (so the government can both discourage the flight of the peasantry into gold, punish a Glen Beck advertiser, and allow the government to find the gold hoarders when FDR is resurrected when Obama's new recession kills federal revenues) is government bureaucratic quackery that catches EVERYONE. Your average federal employee can't hire Geitner's team of accountants, you know.


I'm not overly concerned that some low level flunkies or middle managers owe some taxes here and there. I've misjudged things and owed the government the occasional thousand or two. That study citing how government workers owed so muc money in taxes is meaningless unless the numbers are connected to names and positions and amount owed, and compared with a similar slice of the privately employed population in the same geographic area. It was a peice clearly intended to inflame, not inform.

But....the president of a Federal Reserve Bank doesn't have the least excuse for not paying his taxes in full and on time, just like the Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committtee is expected to pay his damn taxes on time and in full.
 
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Scarecrow Akhbar said:
You're kidding, me, right? Some clerk in the Patent and Trademark Office, some of whom I used to go to school with, gets paid a $40k a year salary, to live in one of the most expensive areas of the country, and they perhaps marry someone else with their own income, which may be variable, with dependents, with deductible medical expenses, business losses or gains from personal time private side businesses.....and you soon discover that Big Brother chewed up Winston Smith just like BB chewed proles.
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Try not to simply make up numbers and then feel sorry for someone based on them.

The government quackery that will soon be making all of us give detailed personal financial and tax information to make a simple gold purchase (so the government can both discourage the flight of the peasantry into gold, punish a Glen Beck advertiser, and allow the government to find the gold hoarders when FDR is resurrected when Obama's new recession kills federal revenues) is government bureaucratic quackery that catches EVERYONE. Your average federal employee can't hire Geitner's team of accountants, you know.
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Try not to bring up something completely irrelevant.


I'm not overly concerned that some low level flunkies or middle managers owe some taxes here and there. I've misjudged things and owed the government the occasional thousand or two. That study citing how government workers owed so muc money in taxes is meaningless unless the numbers are connected to names and positions and amount owed, and compared with a similar slice of the privately employed population in the same geographic area. It was a peice clearly intended to inflame, not inform.
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No, it was a piece designed to show that some Federal workers in Washington aren't paying their taxes. "The average unpaid tax bill is $12,787 among the Senate's delinquent taxpayers and $15,498 among those working in the House." I must admit, though, that you're right. The fact that any US Senator or Representative owes money certainly inflames me.

But....the president of a Federal Reserve Bank doesn't have the least excuse for not paying his taxes in full and on time, just like the Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committtee is expected to pay his damn taxes on time and in full.
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I agree. All of them are.
 
samsmart said:
So it's okay to get on Timothy Geitner's case for his back taxes but not Christine O'Donnell's case for the same issue?
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I'm sorry, what does Geitner do for a living, again? What does O'Donnell do for a living and more importantly was is she likely NOT going to be doing for a living after November?
 
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MaggieD said:
Try not to simply make up numbers and then feel sorry for someone based on them.
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Try to develop the mature understanding of what a survey is attempting to prove before hoisting the flag of ignorance for all to see.

Try not to bring up something completely irrelevant.
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You're not very good at discussing the real world, are you? The relevance of what I say is apparent to everyone old enough to pay their own bills.

No, it was a piece designed to show that some Federal workers in Washington aren't paying their taxes.
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Right.

So are we supposed to assue that DC is the only city in the country with people who don't pay taxes?

Do try to post what the real relevancies are, here.
 
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I'm sorry, what does Geitner do for a living, again? What does O'Donnell do for a living and more importantly was is she likely NOT going to be doing for a living after November?
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There's a fair chance O'Donnell is not going to be doing odd jobs come January.
 
MSgt said:
The Treasury Secretary of the United States should be the last person that "forgets" to pay his taxes. I mean his entire world is organizing money.
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It wasn't that he forgot. His dependable business manager blew it. Same thing happened to Willie Nelson and many others.

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Scarecrow Akhbar said:
There's a fair chance O'Donnell is not going to be doing odd jobs come January.
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We could hope, but I think it fairly certain she won't win the seat. Regardless, the head of the Treasury should pay his own taxes. That's my point. Appointing someone who believes he is above the law is so very....Democrat.
 
It’s hilarious how when politicians do not pay their taxes, it’s no big deal but, if you and I did the same we’d have IRS agents knocking down our doors and killing our animals and taking everything we own.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Try to develop the mature understanding of what a survey is attempting to prove before hoisting the flag of ignorance for all to see.
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Hey!!! I'll hoist a flag of ignorance anytime I damn well please. In this case, however, I beg to differ.

You're not very good at discussing the real world, are you? The relevance of what I say is apparent to everyone old enough to pay their own bills.
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Right.
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Finally, something we can both agree on. I am.

So are we supposed to assue that DC is the only city in the country with people who don't pay taxes?
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Why would you jump to that particular conclusion? That's faulty logic.

Do try to post what the real relevancies are, here.
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Did that. Geitner is the tip of the iceburg. That's what I posted. If you aren't furious that a significant number of the House of Representatives and the Senate haven't paid their taxes, I just don't know what ta' tell ya'.

The average unpaid tax bill is $12,787 among the Senate's delinquent taxpayers and $15,498 among those working in the House. (From my previous link.)
 
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