View Poll Results: What has Damaged America the Most?

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  • Federal Reserve

    31 28.70%
  • 2 Party System

    41 37.96%
  • Political Spin Doctors

    34 31.48%
  • Illuminaties Plans

    2 1.85%
  • Corporate Elite

    42 38.89%
  • Government Corruption

    55 50.93%
  • Tax-paid Unions

    26 24.07%
  • Welfare & Gov't Dependants

    36 33.33%
  • Hawks / US Pro-War

    39 36.11%
  • Religious

    23 21.30%
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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    The lopsided distribution of wealth. Power follows money more than anything else. Through powerful influence over the media, elections, and markets, the top percents of wealth holders use that money power to insure that their interests become continuously more secure, and this is often at the expense of the middle class and poor.

    They use the media to pacify you first, make you a passive bystander to a real life. Then if that doesn't work, they use it to distract you with a myriad of relatively inconsequential controversies. If that doesn't work, and you make too much noise, you will be marginalized.

    In elections, they use money to buy politicians of both parties. When the electorate is especially duped, they vote for republicans. When they are getting more uppity, they vote for democrats. Neither party effects any real change to the fundamental interests of wealth holders.

    In markets, they use their market power to pay as little as possible and charge as much as possible, both of these for as long as possible. The result is that, for the middle class, they will always struggle.

    For a while, many of the people with power thought they should fear what the people would do if too much wealth accumulated in the hands of the few. They now know that they have us all sufficiently duped that I think they don't give it much thought. And so the system gets progressively worse, year by year.
    Oh do tell us how that can be remedied. Look at Pro TEnnis-several million people train and only 100 or so make it on the pro tour in a given year. And on top of that-2 guys have won more majors than the rest of the world combined.

    its the same way on a much larger scale in the global economy. THe best educated and the most innovative continue to make money. Stupid, untalented, unambitious or unlucky people do not



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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    The two party system is corruption- since we use the two partys to see who gets into government and control it. The political system is what the government uses to maintain its power - Hence Government corruption is a byproduct of the two party system .The Parts cannot be greater than the whole- in any given system.

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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Quote Originally Posted by b.larset View Post
    The two party system is corruption- since we use the two partys to see who gets into government and control it. The political system is what the government uses to maintain its power - Hence Government corruption is a byproduct of the two party system .The Parts cannot be greater than the whole- in any given system.
    so we need to have those coalition governments we see in lots of europe made up of a loose alliance of 3-5 parties?



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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikhail View Post
    If America didnt at least attempt to police the world you can expect chaos.Who is gonna do so otherwise the UN?
    Who gives a **** about the Euro-trash, Chaotic Africa, the Hellscape of the Middle East, Asia or Latin America? The only nation that had a rival in military strength is dead and buried. I fully support Fortress America, **** THE REST OF THE ****ING WORLD! The only thing we have to do with other countries is trade. Just like Jefferson said we should do. The neocon scumbags wanna police the rest of the damm world in their failed Woodrow Wilson experiments maybe the ****stains should do it on their own dime. They should take their ****stain families too.
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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Who gives a **** about the Euro-trash, Chaotic Africa, the Hellscape of the Middle East, Asia or Latin America? The only nation that had a rival in military strength is dead and buried. I fully support Fortress America, **** THE REST OF THE ****ING WORLD! The only thing we have to do with other countries is trade. Just like Jefferson said we should do. The neocon scumbags wanna police the rest of the damm world in their failed Woodrow Wilson experiments maybe the ****stains should do it on their own dime. They should take their ****stain families too.
    The only thing wrong with this post is that I can only thank it once.

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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Who gives a **** about the Euro-trash, Chaotic Africa, the Hellscape of the Middle East, Asia or Latin America? The only nation that had a rival in military strength is dead and buried. I fully support Fortress America, **** THE REST OF THE ****ING WORLD! The only thing we have to do with other countries is trade. Just like Jefferson said we should do. The neocon scumbags wanna police the rest of the damn world in their failed Woodrow Wilson experiments maybe the ****stains should do it on their own dime. They should take their ****stain families too.
    Could you give some examples of past events that would draw/have drawn your ire, based on the framework you allude too in this post?
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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Government Corruption.

    I believe this is the root of most of our problems. When our officials put self gain before the country and allow lobbyists to influence their decisions, little good can happen.

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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Everyone says special interests but almost everyone will excuse their favorite special interest.
    Until we can all agree, that no special interests should be involved, there will always be a lot of them influencing legislation.
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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Who gives a **** about the Euro-trash, Chaotic Africa, the Hellscape of the Middle East, Asia or Latin America? The only nation that had a rival in military strength is dead and buried. I fully support Fortress America, **** THE REST OF THE ****ING WORLD! The only thing we have to do with other countries is trade. Just like Jefferson said we should do. The neocon scumbags wanna police the rest of the damm world in their failed Woodrow Wilson experiments maybe the ****stains should do it on their own dime. They should take their ****stain families too.
    Yes because isolationists policies would have made America the same country. Do you know where the overwhelming majority of the country's money has come from for the past 200+ years? I'll give you a clue, it's come as a result of getting involved in the problems of other people. Think of it this way, if there weren't dozens of treaties, acts, agreements and political deals going on, you wouldn't have a job today. But thank you for that highly informative post. It simply highlights why Libertarians will never get past being a conglomerate of disgruntled Best Buy employees and 17 year olds.
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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Everyone says special interests but almost everyone will excuse their favorite special interest.
    Until we can all agree, that no special interests should be involved, there will always be a lot of them influencing legislation.
    I would be all for the total removal of them.

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