View Poll Results: What has Damaged America the Most?

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  • Federal Reserve

    31 28.70%
  • 2 Party System

    41 37.96%
  • Political Spin Doctors

    34 31.48%
  • Illuminaties Plans

    2 1.85%
  • Corporate Elite

    42 38.89%
  • Government Corruption

    55 50.93%
  • Tax-paid Unions

    26 24.07%
  • Welfare & Gov't Dependants

    36 33.33%
  • Hawks / US Pro-War

    39 36.11%
  • Religious

    23 21.30%
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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    War, because it spawns and sustains all the other evils.
    Actually, I think the reverse is closer to the truth - evils and such spawn and sustain war - Without reasons (however bad/wrong) war would not continue.
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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    ~James Madison
    None of this changes the fact that war in an effect, not a cause.

    But, to address a few of the lines:
    War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes
    Entitlement is the parent of the welfare state; from this proceeds even greater debts and taxes. The difference is that war is sometimes necessary; the welfare state is always a luxury.

    No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare."
    See: Israel

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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Actually, I think the reverse is closer to the truth - evils and such spawn and sustain war - Without reasons (however bad/wrong) war would not continue.
    Unfortunately, the war has no logical reason to continue, only the spectra of servival politics. If Obama pulls our army out of Afghanistan, the Reps will call him a weak appeaser, and he won't get reelected.

    Afghanistan defenders should be called patriots, not terrorists or insurgents.

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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Unfortunately, the war has no logical reason to continue, only the spectra of servival politics. If Obama pulls our army out of Afghanistan, the Reps will call him a weak appeaser, and he won't get reelected.
    Wait ... wasn't Obama elected to end the war?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Afghanistan defenders should be called patriots, not terrorists or insurgents.

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    You, sir, disgust me.

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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Unfortunately, the war has no logical reason to continue, only the spectra of servival politics. If Obama pulls our army out of Afghanistan, the Reps will call him a weak appeaser, and he won't get reelected.

    Afghanistan defenders should be called patriots, not terrorists or insurgents.

    ricksfolly
    These are those 'Afghan defenders' that you are so supportive of.






    Taliban execute pregnant woman in Afghanistan
    Taliban execute pregnant woman in Afghanistan

    HERAT, Afghanistan, Aug 9, 2010 (AFP) - The Taliban publicly flogged and then executed a pregnant Afghan widow by firing three shots into her head for alleged adultery, police said on Monday.

    Bibi Sanubar, 35, was kept in captivity for three days before she was shot dead in a public trial on Sunday by a local Taliban commander in the Qadis district of the rural western province Badghis.

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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    These are those 'Afghan defenders' that you are so supportive of.






    Taliban execute pregnant woman in Afghanistan
    Taliban execute pregnant woman in Afghanistan

    HERAT, Afghanistan, Aug 9, 2010 (AFP) - The Taliban publicly flogged and then executed a pregnant Afghan widow by firing three shots into her head for alleged adultery, police said on Monday.

    Bibi Sanubar, 35, was kept in captivity for three days before she was shot dead in a public trial on Sunday by a local Taliban commander in the Qadis district of the rural western province Badghis.
    Those are patriots, sir! Don't you remember hearing about how George Washington had loose women flogged and executed? [/heavy sarcasm]

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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    None of this changes the fact that war in an effect, not a cause.
    Uh, yeah, it does.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman
    But, to address a few of the lines:

    Entitlement is the parent of the welfare state; from this proceeds even greater debts and taxes. The difference is that war is sometimes necessary; the welfare state is always a luxury.
    Luxuries are not intrinsically evil. War is, even on the rare occasions when it's necessary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman
    See: Israel
    No need to look that far. Our own society is already tending to fascism, just as theirs is.

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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    These are those 'Afghan defenders' that you are so supportive of.






    Taliban execute pregnant woman in Afghanistan
    Taliban execute pregnant woman in Afghanistan

    HERAT, Afghanistan, Aug 9, 2010 (AFP) - The Taliban publicly flogged and then executed a pregnant Afghan widow by firing three shots into her head for alleged adultery, police said on Monday.

    Bibi Sanubar, 35, was kept in captivity for three days before she was shot dead in a public trial on Sunday by a local Taliban commander in the Qadis district of the rural western province Badghis.
    Lots of America haters on the left



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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post

    You, sir, disgust me.
    All right, what would you do if the US was invaded, rationalize the meaning of it all, call them dirty names, or fight back the best way you know how?

    By the way, our skirts aren't all that clean either. We persecuted women the same way and did all the other dirty things we accuse them of doing...

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    Re: What has Damaged America the Most?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    Uh, yeah, it does.
    No, it doesnt. In fact, it doesnt address the issue in any way.

    Luxuries are not intrinsically evil. War is, even on the rare occasions when it's necessary.
    Show that "war is always evil".

    No need to look that far. Our own society is already tending to fascism, just as theirs is.
    This doesnt do anything to negate what I said.

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