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    Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Due to recent events such as the New York Mosque, Tennessee Mosque, and the Koran burnings, do you believe that certain Christian based Conservatives seek to purge Islam from the U.S. in an attempt to progress towards a better society? Do you feel that these people are stepping away from their Conservative ideals in order to fit their own moral standards?
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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    This doesn't even make sense. Are you suggesting that progressives have attempted to purge Islam out of the U.S.?

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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    This doesn't even make sense. Are you suggesting that progressives have attempted to purge Islam out of the U.S.?
    I don't know what exactly he is saying, but the Progressive movement hasn't always been asociated with Liberals. In the past it was asociated with Christians, and things such as Prohibition and other religious laws came out of the old progressive movement. I have a feeling he is suggesting that something like that may be reapearing.

    I'd say it would be a select few, emphasis on select. Very small minority. They would be to Christianity as Terrorists are to Islam.
    Reality tends to have a liberal bias.

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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    This doesn't even make sense. Are you suggesting that progressives have attempted to purge Islam out of the U.S.?
    Some self-proclaimed Christian Conservatives believe the world would be better off without Islam. That the religion itself is evil. That sounds like a progress towards a better society. That would be against a conservatives view of protecting our Freedom of Religion. That is hypocrisy in its finest to the conservative belief.
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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    I don't know what exactly he is saying, but the Progressive movement hasn't always been asociated with Liberals. In the past it was asociated with Christians, and things such as Prohibition and other religious laws came out of the old progressive movement. I have a feeling he is suggesting that something like that may be reapearing.

    I'd say it would be a select few, emphasis on select. Very small minority. They would be to Christianity as Terrorists are to Islam.
    Right on the money.
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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Quote Originally Posted by LimeLight View Post
    Due to recent events such as the New York Mosque, Tennessee Mosque, and the Koran burnings, do you believe that certain Christian based Conservatives seek to purge Islam from the U.S. in an attempt to progress towards a better society? Do you feel that these people are stepping away from their Conservative ideals in order to fit their own moral standards?
    Unlike the original Tea Partiers, Progressives won't let the bigots and hate merchants hijack our movement and ideals and turn us into Teabaggers. So no thanks, Sarah and Co can keep the angry old white "christian" bigot demographic.

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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Issues between those of Christian-faith and Islam have been butting heads since . . . . well . . . . always.

    No - I don't think they're "progressing forward" (used generally - not referring to a Progressive political association) - they *had* a stronger hold on our country and people in the past and, if anything, we're progressing *away* from it.
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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Are some Christians progressives? I would say yes, but not for the reason in the OP. There are some Christian organizations that seem to believe our government policies should be shaped by Jesus' teachings. They believe since Jesus said to help the poor, that means the government should create policies to help the poor and force the citizens of the country to be "charitable".

    Weird how Jesus never was a political activist and when talking about helping the poor and less fortunate he was talking to INDIVIDUALS, not the government. Individual charity doesn't just help those less fortunate, it lifts the spirit of the giver. Jesus was about changing individual hearts, not assisting a man-made government in forcing their citizens to give. That changes no hearts.


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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Are some Christians progressives? I would say yes, but not for the reason in the OP. There are some Christian organizations that seem to believe our government policies should be shaped by Jesus' teachings. They believe since Jesus said to help the poor, that means the government should create policies to help the poor and force the citizens of the country to be "charitable".

    Weird how Jesus never was a political activist and when talking about helping the poor and less fortunate he was talking to INDIVIDUALS, not the government. Individual charity doesn't just help those less fortunate, it lifts the spirit of the giver. Jesus was about changing individual hearts, not assisting a man-made government in forcing their citizens to give. That changes no hearts.
    Is this something Glenn Beck 'taught' you? I always thought Jesus was a liberal.


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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I always thought Jesus was a liberal.
    It's not what you think that matters. The truth matters. If you could show me where in scripture Jesus promoted government policies and told his disciples to "go into all the world and [change the laws so that no one will be poor and the rich will be forced to pay their dues]", I'll be more than happy to listen.

    Jesus wasn't liberal or conservative or libertarian or anything. He wasn't political.


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