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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    It's not what you think that matters. The truth matters. If you could show me where in scripture Jesus promoted government policies and told his disciples to "go into all the world and [change the laws so that no one will be poor and the rich will be forced to pay their dues]", I'll be more than happy to listen.

    Jesus wasn't liberal or conservative or libertarian or anything. He wasn't political.
    Then why do so many Christians want to turn this nation into a "Christian Nation"?

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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Then why do so many Christians want to turn this nation into a "Christian Nation"?
    Who does? And what do you mean by "Christian nation"? A theocracy?


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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Who does? And what do you mean by "Christian nation"? A theocracy?
    Oh give me a break you have heard the "Christian Nation" rhetoric before.

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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Oh give me a break you have heard the "Christian Nation" rhetoric before.
    Yes, but what does that mean? Do you think they really want a theocracy?

    And the people using Jesus to shape government policy on helping the poor are in the current administration.


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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Yes, but what does that mean? Do you think they really want a theocracy?

    And the people using Jesus to shape government policy on helping the poor are in the current administration.
    Well that is no where close to what I was talking about and you know it. I'm not going to play your silly diversion game. Many on the right want to interject their Christian religion into politics. This seem antithetical to Jesus if Jesus was truly apolitical.

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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    Unlike the original Tea Partiers, Progressives won't let the bigots and hate merchants hijack our movement and ideals and turn us into Teabaggers. So no thanks, Sarah and Co can keep the angry old white "christian" bigot demographic.
    Dems are more racist than the Tea Party of today.
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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Are some Christians progressives? I would say yes, but not for the reason in the OP. There are some Christian organizations that seem to believe our government policies should be shaped by Jesus' teachings. They believe since Jesus said to help the poor, that means the government should create policies to help the poor and force the citizens of the country to be "charitable".
    That's not Christian progressivism. That's more Dominionism, or Christian Socilism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Weird how Jesus never was a political activist
    During that ancient time, considering how involved organized religions were with government, being a religious radical, which Jesus was to the Jewish religious structure, was the same as being a political radical.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    and when talking about helping the poor and less fortunate he was talking to INDIVIDUALS, not the government. Individual charity doesn't just help those less fortunate, it lifts the spirit of the giver. Jesus was about changing individual hearts, not assisting a man-made government in forcing their citizens to give. That changes no hearts.
    No, but it does help those who are poor be able to get assistance without having to hear someone preach to them to get it, which is important if they don't believe in Christianity.

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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post



    No, but it does help those who are poor be able to get assistance without having to hear someone preach to them to get it, which is important if they don't believe in Christianity.
    I think we will always have some need for government assistance. However, it should be as a last resort and seldom as a permanent entitlement.
    When people are allowed to keep more of their own money, they are better able to share with those in need. It's not just Christians who are charitable and not all Christians donate to only Christian organizations.
    One of the saddist things I heard (not sure it passed) But Obama wanted to decrease the deduction that could be taken for charitable giving. It's like he was saying charity isn't a worthy cause, so give me the money and I'll decide who gets it.
    I don't want to live in a country where charity isn't a high priority.
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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Well that is no where close to what I was talking about and you know it. I'm not going to play your silly diversion game. Many on the right want to interject their Christian religion into politics. This seem antithetical to Jesus if Jesus was truly apolitical.
    Many on the LEFT also want to inject their religion into politics. If you can't see that, then you need to try a little harder. Start with Obama's spiritual advisor, Jim Wallis. And, you're right, it's antithetical.


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    Re: Are Christian Conservatives becoming Progressive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Many on the LEFT also want to inject their religion into politics. If you can't see that, then you need to try a little harder. Start with Obama's spiritual advisor, Jim Wallis. And, you're right, it's antithetical.
    Ahh more diversion from you.

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